Sampler to replace synth?

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  1. wouala woualouf

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    Are these waveforms more or less the same type of waveforms one can find on hardware devices such as the Motif rack.... roland JV-xxxx, etc etc.

    Today, we laugh when we see a 500gb kontakt library, or a hardware device with 3'000 user presets and a ton of memory.... but i remember watching lemkuhl, or pluginguru , saying those little files had to be filtered, to remove some frequencies, were only 8bit....all that, to make the file as small as possible. ... great old times
     
  2. SineWave

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    ROMplers generally use perfectly looped and multi-sampled [every octave or so] small samples [1 sec or more], rather than single-cycle waveforms. It sounds better when you loop a small sample like that, but looping a single cycle or especially layering different samples has its charm, too.
     
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  3. Plendix

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    I did a lot of synth sounds with my Akai 2800 by just using it's built-in sine/square/triangle waveforms.
    and that particular machine just had a 12db/oct lopass filter with rather bad sounding resonance.
    with an emulator III or IV one could've done really amazing sounds, that beast had awesome filters.
    so: yes, absolutely, you can create synth sounds with any sampler.
    you can even have a wavetable synth by feeding him those waves instead of plain sine and square and triangle waveforms.
     
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  4. Nana Banana

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    That was just a quick example to show. I didn't use that, I just loaded, selected, screen shot, and uploaded :rofl:
    Junkie's the man!
     
  5. Bump

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    Discovered something cool today...so I always knew that when using samples of oscillators...one of the "flies in the ointment" was aliasing at higher registers.

    So, I was sampling some of the waveforms from my ESQ-1 to play around with in TAL-Sampler and sure enough at the higher octaves there was pretty ugly aliasing.

    I'm totally ignorant when it comes to DSP so I had very little clue what to do to kind of diminish *some* of the artifacts...when I just started playing around with the settings...and when I chose the Emulator II DAC setting...it was almost identical to my ESQ-1!!
     
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  6. SineWave

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    TAL Sampler is a great emulator indeed. The only thing it doesn't emulate is the noise, nice random phases, and EQ changes.
     
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    Yeah it is awesome...I do wish the envelopes didn't have static routing though...it sucks that the amp envelope affects all layers.
     
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  8. Moonlight

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    sample one since studio one 4 is quite usefull either, It has great filters and you can just drag and dropo audio from s1 to sample one. it even lets you automatically slice audio. besides that there is even a follow tempo option which stretches audio in realtime
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  9. tun

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    yep!
    it can actually work out better than a synth in some ways. i have used the technique a lot and i love it.
    i dont usually use single cycle waveforms though, i usually use a small section of a sample. sometimes cut down to a single cycle, but often using a few cycles to help get some movement in the sound.
     
  10. recycle

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    My instrument to play single cycle waveform in Elektron Digitakt. Actually, before having that I had never thought of using the sampler in this way. it essentially becomes a synth, then with the envelopes and the filters I can make nice complex sounds
     
  11. fiction

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    Guys, you've convinced me to use my Yamaha A5000 sampler again. Must be synthesis heaven, you can have a different synth block for every note, insane modulations and 6 independent FX processors are fun too :invision:

    Yes, and the box is very immediate, one of the fastest samplers today!
    Bummer it's neither stereo nor polyphonic. Might switch to NanoStudio 2 soon because Octatrack is too difficult for me...
     
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