Sample Modeling errors on Kontakt

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  1. swing

    swing Newbie

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    Hi there. I know this topics sometimes are a pain in the ass for the more experienced, but after trying some solutions found in this great site I can´t make this work, and I´m a little rushed (I want to find a solution for working in my contribution for the album this weekend, I´m a little out of time during the rest of the days and time is passing fast, deadline is coming). I´m going to try to put this concise:

    - I´m on FL, using Kontakt. I want to replace some solo crappy brass soundfonts with Sample Modeling´s ones (I think they sound nice and not too orchestral-cinematic-huge, I want a more dry/solo-simple phrases or sound details added to the song, with better instruments).

    - I installed the libraries and updated my database.
    - I know some libraries won´t load if you don´t make it manually by the browser. When I do it I get the message: "this patch is encrypted and cannot be loaded..."

    - If I go with add library I get "No library found" or "Could not add.." message.
    - Instruments are shown in my database and were created with an earlier Kontakt version so isn´t a compatibility problem (attached image).
    - If it´s posible, I would prefer to not change my Kontakt version, I reinstalled 5.1 last week because other issues.
    - I checked rar files and folder structure and everything seems to be right. .nkc and .nkx are there. No major installing data on the nfo.

    - I´m not an advanced Kontakt user so maybe I´m missing some stupid point (sorry). I´ve no idea about how to tweak registers so I´m gonna need some light here if some manual changes are needed for this specific sounds.

    Thanks in advance guys.

    **I´m still reading other topics and trying to figure out how to resolve this and don´t get anybody mad here, if I success I´ll delete or edit this topic.
     

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  3. Andrew

    Andrew AudioSEX Maestro

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    Hi carl,
    could you check the size of French Horn and Tuba_info.nkx if it's not zero?
     
  4. swing

    swing Newbie

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    Hi Andrew.
    French Horn and Tuba_info.nkx is 71,0 KB.
    French Horn and Tuba_info.nkc is 604 bytes.

    Same is happening with The Trombone libraries. Maybe it´s something tricky with Sample Modeling´s stuff.
     
  5. 0on3

    0on3 Guest

    After opening kontakt , open your browser tab. Then 'load' the nkr , or nkm ,
    ('shit I can never remember which' .... :unsure: );
    anyway .... hit the tab to add it to you library and it should load right up for ya.

    Now , you may have to initalize the 'cc'-message/operator , even afer you load it to kontakt.
    If your using a keyboard (hardware) controller ; usually , all you need to do is move
    Your pitch/wheel controller on the keyboard.

    If your using your PC/Mac keyboard-mouse , you need to hit the 'tab' cc message in the
    GUI of the loaded kontakt file.

    Hope this werx for ya !!

    good luck !

    - 0:1 -
     
  6. swing

    swing Newbie

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    Hi Oon3. Finally I made it, in a ridiculous way.
    I found a "solution" using Kontakt in 'modo stalone' (LOL, not too reliable but you have to try everything out there and be persistent).

    **(I couldn´t load nkr/nkm, by the way...)

    I leave the 'solution', maybe it´s useful for others:

    - I opened Kontakt in standalone.
    - Tried to load the library > Error.
    - Close Kontakt.
    - Open Kontakt again.
    - Load library > Library/Service Center message appears > Ok
    - Writing Error appears > Close.
    - Library is loaded now :dunno:
    - Kontakt in FL also shown the libraries.

    I don´t own a controller, so now I´ve to figure out what to do with the CC11 warning, but at least I loaded something. If you know something about it´ll be appreciated.
     

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  7. swing

    swing Newbie

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    Well, with some patience I can draw the midi CCs events in a FL Midi Out and get everything working.
    It took some time but problem solved :thumbsup:
    I´m gonna make some noise this weekend.
     
  8. jayhind

    jayhind Ultrasonic

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    I use SM stuff a lot, most of the time I just push CC11 to max and leave it at that unless I am writing something other than unison sustain and stacatto riffs.
     
  9. swing

    swing Newbie

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    Yes, I´m exploring CC11 expresiveness with some sustained phrases for a song.
    Sadly, I can assign the Performance Keys or the extra modulators (those around C-1/-2) to my FL Midi Outs but they don´t work and I don´t know why yet, but for now I can write what I was looking for, learn the instrument and give a next step in this composition.
     
  10. 0on3

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    'Good for you CARL !!!!

    Its nice when ya'z get to 'win' once in awhile , aint it !!

    Rock on broth'a !

    - 0:1 -
     
  11. oldskoolproductions

    oldskoolproductions Producer

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    You need to have the " .nicnt " File to add a library..

    eg: Voice of Gaia Strawberry.nicnt

    If you dont have the file extention... then you have to manually load instruments from the Kontakt Brower..

    I hope this helps..
     
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