Running Logic in VMware Player on Windows

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  1. Zenarcist

    Zenarcist Audiosexual

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    What are the downsides?
     
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  3. black bounty

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    if it's the same as running windows apps on parallel desktops for mac, don't even think about it.

    DAW needs RAM
    VSTi needs RAM
    OS need RAM
    emulation software needs RAM

    = you're screwed

    best option is dual boot hackintosh, or mac running windows but on bootcamp

    VMWare, Parallel, etc .. are good for "low ressources consuming softwares", but in my opinion, not working well with music softwares.
     
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  4. foster911

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    Don't worry much. He just wants to install then remove it to have it as an experimentation in his memoir.:winker:
     
  5. fiction

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    RAM is not an issue, if your host has plenty then you can give the VM plenty.

    The biggest downside could be latency, but I'd say it's worth a try definitely!
    And make sure you connect your USB interfaces to the VM directly.
     
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    Unless you have a very good computer, like an i5/i7 20th generation with plenty of ram, you should be fine. If you don't, it's not worth it. Another possiblity would be running Hyper-V, they recently supported Linux. Since OSX is openbsod, it wouldn't suprise me if you could run it through Hyper-V with some kind of workaround. Though I have not researched this at all.
     
  7. EddieXx

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    it would be interesting, so go for it I say and please keep us posted.
    with todays systems it may even become "usable" with reasonable low expectations.

    but just as a fun experiment only though, because we all know the requirements for a daw to run "flawlessly" in its proper, legitimate environment. needless to say it will be a path filled with headaches along the road, not only to get it running and make sounds but in the long run. to make music you need simplicity not hassle

    if you want to make MUSIC, this is hardly the way I would say.

    i have a dual boot hackintosh stationary and it works perfectly, and my laptop is mac, there are things that are truly great in osx still. and I love the library in logic and its beautiful interface but there is nothing you can't do in any other daw
     
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  8. foster911

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    Logic and Final Cut are the only fortes of macOS for production. It's a weird environment. It's been designed for Consumption not Production.

    Personally I'd never try to make noise in it. For producers working with the recorded materials, Pro-Tools first, then other counterparts like S1 (so light) are the best.
     
  9. guitarie

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    Vmware use max 256mb video memory. The problem is direct x drivers of your videocard wont work.. your screen will stutter or stand still when you push play button in logic :(

    i installed it on laptop with 32gb ram.. 8gb videocard..and run at cpu 3,8 ghz
    all worked good except graphics
     
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    I did this once just to experiment.

    I installed VMware on my x64 Win10 pc which has 32 gb of Ram. After that I installed OSX on a vm and dedicated 24 gb of Ram. Finally I installed Logic Pro X on the top of it.

    As far as I remember, I didn't experienced any glitches but I got bored of it fast so I got back to Studio One on Windows.

    Bottom line: Don't even think trying this if your machine has less than 16 gb of physical Ram.
     
  11. foster911

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    As I said.:rofl:
     
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    An example of magnates and prosperous producers.:bleh:
     
  13. Deep_AM

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    I've run this atm as a test bed for updates/new plugins.

    I mainly run into two issues;
    First is the input latency, on afresh boot this is not bad but after about 5 min this goes stupid into the several (1-2+) seconds range.
    Second issue is sound clipping, does not matter what level the audio is in the mix the speaker output will always have a clipping sound to it.

    Suitable as a test bed to install test plugins/libraries/versions ect, but not prod work.
     
  14. foster911

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    It's an artificial imitation of Pro-Tools. Groove3, Askvideos and Lynda have gratuitously and unwarrantedly made its name swells up just because Apple asked them. Its native tools are risible. :yes:
     
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    you really just let your mouth run.
    whatever crap that happens to come out first qualifies..
     
  16. Zenarcist

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    Exactly, it's not for a main DAW, I just want to have a play around :)
     
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    I was particularly wondering about the latency. Thanks :wink:
     
  18. foster911

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    A mortal wound but I'll grin and bear it.

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    Guys are you trying to say with this technology, you can Run apple softwares inside windows ?
     
  20. Deep_AM

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    This was mainly running NI plugins (Komplete/kontakt, battery, ect.) If i reboot the VM it goes back to ok, for a little while. Ram wise i've tried from 8-32 and the vmdk sits on SSD.
     
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    shhhh, don't tell Apple it's a big secret. If this got out all the Apple fanboys cries would deafen the world.

    We had to create something as we got board after inventing time travel.
     
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