I'm really tempted to try these!
Have you ever had your hands on a K2 (the MS20 clone)?

 

it's good

 

arturia can be very bad at emulations but this one seems hard to fuck up

 

I removed all Arturia software from my PCs since discovered that they install thousands of unuseful files, multiple copies of fonts, images and other files maybe to guarantee scalable size of the plugins. No other software house does the same waste of space.

 

If it would be that easy, there would probably be a Roland Cloud version of it or the 8080 already. Maybe they just don't want to hear the supersaw patch again either.

 

Arturia's in house team for modelling is meh and they are still reliant on those rubbish "TAE" (total analog emulation. An oxymoron and a lie rolled into one) abstractions they built the company on. Fortunately though, the "vintage" digital models are usually done by the guy behind the Martinic plugins, so this might actually be good.

Nobody has actually been able to analyse the DSP on those old cards though, so a lot of the models have been speculative, and i assume this is going to be much the same deal. If Acreil on Gears Slutz who is probably one of the most informative guys on old digital gear couldn't figure out then i doubt anybody else could

 

Old digital gear that is most likely fixed point is quite easy to fuck up. It's not any simpler just because the underlining algorithms operate on pure math. Some of that math isn't possible on Native CPU's and is exclusive to that specific DSP. The DSP for the JP8000 is not general purpose and nobody to my knowledge has ever been able to unravel anything concrete about the algorithms themselves, just a lot of speculation about how the unison algo works etc. so if Martinic is not behind the modelling, i imagine this will just be their usual look-up table approach they use for their oscillators and modulation in their "analog modelled" plugins. The only thing they ever really model with "accuracy" in Arturia products is the filters which are abstractions based on some Italian guys method which from reading his papers would explain why a lot of Arturia plugins are void of any character and sound like the most perfectly toleranced version of that synth, or lets not beat around the bush. A plugin of that synth in the truest sense of the word

Look-up tables don't have to sound shite either. Gforce uses look-up tables as well and their synths are in a different league to anything in Arturia's entire catalogue sans Pigments which is it's own thing and actually a decent synth on its own merits

 

For sure it will be possible, if the new is real .. ;-)

BTW, teknomix : where did you get the info from ?

 

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When it comes out I'll listen to it, so far the following ones are a good choice.

BeepStreet - Sunrizer VSTi - www.beepstreet.com/ios/sunrizer
True SuperSaw sound emulation, first found in the legendary Roland JP-8000 synthesizer.

SuperWave - Trance-Pro VSTi - www.superwavesynths.com/trance-pro

Adam Szabo - JP6K VSTi - www.adamszabo.com/vstplugins/jp6k/
JP6K is a synth dedicated to emulating the famous Super Saw sound, first found in the Roland JP-8000 synthesizer in 1997.

Roland JP-8000 - Native Instruments Reaktor User Library Free VST
www.native-instruments.com/en/reaktor-community/reaktor-user-library/entry/show/14527/

 

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Fantastically good-sounding synth. Both are different. K2 is on my list too, like Model D, SPICE, Kobol Expander, Neutron, 2600 and several others. They also promised to release Polivoks with Vladimir Kuzmin, but still no info.

 

I'm certainly not complaining, but it would be super cool if Arturia (or anyone else) would do vintage samplers for a change! Akai's S series and MPC-60, Ensoniq Mirage and ASR-10, even Roland's famous S series (S50, S7XX, S5XX).

Yes, I suppose you can use Arturia's Emulator II plugin or a number of filter emulations (like the Mathieu Demange filter or something from D16), but it's not a full recreation or the same thing.

 

The "Arturia JP-8000 V" picture seems fake to me ... Usually Arturia is using an extra screen for FX section with an "Advanced" switch where you can fold/unfold extra features ...

My guess : it's all fake .. :-(

 

What's the magic behind hypersaws supersaws? Where are modern big hits with these supersaws? Trance and some EDM? I think there are only 808s, moog basses, sine basses, synthwavey vintage leads, autotuned vox and serum (serum2 now) only everywhere..... Or I haven't heard something new? Where are supersaws?:D

 

Supersaws make great synthwave pads, leads, basses, reese basses, hyper-rave stuff, pop, whatever!

 

Today, thanks to the internet, there's an infinite amount of music and many more devices producing music than in the 80s. As a result, music has become much more diverse, and you can't find as many supersaw sounds anymore, but they're still there!

Spoiler: The JP-8000

The JP-8000 is excellent for use in any music where classic synth sounds are needed. For techno, dance, drum&bass, hiphop, film scoring, synth pop and more! It is used by the Crystal Method, BT, Orbital, Ken Ishii, Vince Clarke, Goldie, Dave Holmes, Prodigy, Groove Armada, Pet Shop Boys, Depeche Mode, ATB, Überzone, Faithless, Gary Numan, Ferry Corsten, Scooter, Konflict, William Ørbit, Paul Van Dyk and Garbage.

Especially in dance and techno music, "classic" analog synthesizer sounds are absolutely essential. With the new JP-8080 synthesizer module, Roland has now integrated the groundbreaking analog modeling technology from the JP-8000 into a rack module and expanded it with several innovative features. Of particular note is the innovative Voice Modulator with independent formant filters, filter banks, and vocal morph functions, which allows you to process external audio data and create incredible vocal effects. For example, you can use the formant filter to combine external vocal sounds with internal synth sounds, thus speaking with a "synthesizer voice." It is also possible to process external audio data similarly to Oscillator 2 using the filter, amplitude, and multi-effects sections.

Roland JP-8080: Trance like we're back in 1999!

Roland JP8080 Trance Classics - JP Eternal Bank/Patches 2022!

 

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Why not?

 

because the JP is as great as the access virus series very special sounds

but 10 years ago it seems this was not possible.. you had to have the real hardware synth.. at least i
but i can afford the jp 8000 if i work and save money.. but who knows.. i might one day have the real hardware.

i mean now when we have virus ti emulation its amazing

 

not necessarily. if the hardware synth is featuring an fx section on the housing Arturia is also using it out of the typical fold down FX Section.
See the Chorus on the Juno 6 or the Reverb on the Buchla and Synthi V. The SEM also has straight access FX. Most of their recreated synth just don't have an FX Section at all on the hardware, so it's in the most cases just an additional feature that they put away from the housing...which makes sense this way.

We will be smarter in a couple of days if its real