Reaper or Studio One

Discussion in 'Reaper' started by Starmaka, Oct 20, 2014.

  1. Active-A

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    Try both see what you like more, personally I use cubase always have always will :D
     
  2. Andrew

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    In order to be efficient with specific DAW it's great if you can master its keyboard shortcuts, screensets, actions, macros, and of course looks.
    In REAPER, getting acquainted more for single night experience takes a bit of time and effort - building custom actions, macros, defining screensets, tinkering with JS script ( :cool: ), setting up multi monitor flow, routing tracks, assigning all your OSC and CC controllers to specific functions, etc.

    Other DAWs tend to have this fixed in place, but here it's freedom. And this freedom comes a bit at a price of spending few hours and days to get it ready for production.
     
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    GUI is the lamest excuse for not using Reaper. For as long as I can do everything I want and do it fast that DAW is mine. :wink:

    If something better, meaning more powerful, comes around I will use that. I tried Studio One and I agree its workflow is interesting and easy to grasp for a beginner, but I immediately missed many of the routing and rendering options and track templates. In Reaper, sidechaining is easy to do since forever with any compressor, for instance. Cubase only got it rather recently and its routing still sucks anyway.
    I routinely render tracks through outboard hardware and back with sample precision. No DAW can do that. Maybe Reaper is generally for people who are knowledgeable about audio? I mean technicians? To me it doesn't seem so, but I certainly like Reaper for the bunch of features that no other DAW has. :shrug: After using Reaper no DAW seems satisfactory for me. Only when it comes to jotting ideas...

    Reaper is just an incredibly powerful DAW. I am not surprised at all that many people rave about it. :wink:
     
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  4. DanielFaraday

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    The most sexist daw comparison 2017 edition.
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  5. TW

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    I did not want to bash reaper too much. And also dont want to bash s1 too much. I own legitimate copies of both.
    After saying what i dont like i tell you what I like of both of this daws most.

    First of all reaper is cheap. For the money it is a steal.
    Reaper`s ability to make the mixer panel just a list of big input meters without (nearly) any controlls is really great if i record myself behind my drums and i have to look on my notebook screen. I can easily control levels even while playing. And not everything is "ugly" in reaper. The wav form representation is the best in all daws I own. It really looks gorgeous.

    S1 is the most user friendly daw I ever used. It is probably one of the big players in the future cause of this. I never ever needed to look into the manual. Most of the cool more unusual stuff like "multi effects and instruments" I discovered while i was doing something else And after a view seconds playing around with it i knew what it is and I had that "wow this is awsesome "effect.

    But if I compare the complete package there is still another king in the ring. And its shadow is big ....
     
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  6. Lambchop

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    In that case, assembler = best language. Most powerful & efficient, once you spend the time to learn a computer's architecture & write some templates/routines/code snippets/macros.
    OTOH, a reasonable learning curve, limited choices, and good looks -- those are all important too.
     
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  7. Boosire

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    I love both

    Bu god damn Studio One is a sexy beast.


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    Well congratulations, then you know the robots that weld the cars use Linux. I graduated with a Computer science degree.
    Good you know who Frankle is too. But to be honest Steinberg does not listen to there customers, you are totally wrong on this.
    I think they have started with version 9.5.

    I also never said that The GUI was perfect, but if you really think about it does a perfect GUI make the music sound better?
    You are looking at a DAW 's capability via the GUI? As far as usability that is up to the user to decide,for me reaper is fantastic in usability.

    Bottom line try them all and use the one you like. Do not let anyone tell you one is better than the other. That is your place to decide !
     
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    FL Abobe Black is closer to this/she/he/whatever

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    Nexus sampled to directwave? You are, mister, indeed pervert. :rofl:
     
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    ^^^ it's just the MIDI channel based per note/layer effecting :bash::)

     
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  12. Cav Emp

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    I never could get into Reaper. By the time I tried it out I was already pretty happy with the DAWs I was currently using and couldn't summon the motivation to do all that menu diving.

    I think it takes a certain personality type to really appreciate Reaper. People like @Andrew and @Talmi ... technologically proficient types who enjoy - and are good at - tinkering with and customizing things. Me, I like a DAW that says, "Hey there little guy, we know you're just a bit on the stupid side so we made things real nice and easy for you. We figured you probably wouldn't read the manual so we put a little info box on the UI to help you when you forget what the play button does. Oh and don't worry about that whole workflow thing. We've got one prescribed right here in the design of the software."

    Aww, thanks Ableton. You get me.
     
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    I spend some time and now i get some protools/ableton hybrid. I'm still trying to figure out how to get grab tool working by holding ctrl+alt.
    The thing is that reaper is a tool for dedicated tasks and situations. Mixing/tracking/recording mostly. You can't extract groove, you actually even don't have the groove pool in reaper. Only with extension, and that 55 grooves sounds not so good as in ableton. You can't select few tracks and adjust/decrease the send level at once, you can't drag loop from arrangement to media browser like in ableton. Well you actually can, it's even shows you rendering progress bar, but sample appears in the project folder instead of selected. Same with midi. FX Chain - weird, really weird thing. It works for audio but not for vsti instrument. I mean if you have awesome fx chain on serum, and you will try to save it and apply on the different channel, it will load serum and all fx on that channel. Or there's hidden button somewhere in the preferences i forgot to check. I thought that SO has the worst sampler on the board.. Well i was wrong. Reaper is for people who already knows what they need and knows how to achieve it. It's not about creative process and workflow. It's cold tool for dedicated tasks. And it's literally the worst option to start learning producing. It's switching option, not the starting point. All i can say at the moment.
     
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  14. Piszpunta

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    About that menu diving in Reaper:
    Yes, that was something, that distracted me also at first. But then I realized, that I can quickly make my personal menu bar with icons (I mean: I can choose which functions have to be accessible from there) - no more menu diving ever.
    The problem is new users are not informed about this...
     
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    What do yo mean with the "ommision of mono tracks" ?
     
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    Happy Holidays Von. Welcome to the Reaper Cult. LOL

    You know you and I have had quite a few conversations about Cubase Venus Reaper. yet we agree to let the person decide what is best for them.
    I just can not wait till this guy tell me windows 10 GUI is better than cinnamon.
     
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  17. Von_Steyr

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    Happy Holidays to you too bro :)
    Im just a lurker here, reading about the capabilities of Reaper, its good to be informed :yes:
     
  18. midi-man

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    Of course always a good thing to learn.:)
     
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    Haven's used Studio One and I personally prefer Reaper.

    Before I used Ableton Live but got very annoyed about Ableton's license policy and otherwise it was quite buggy compared to Reaper. Reaper has unlimited possibilities, unlimited groups inside groups, you can work different projects at a same time without closing them (it seems to have problems with waves when working many projects at same time though but every other plugins work without a hitch:) )

    Reaper opens up super fast, it can use full potential of multi-core CPU (same thing can not be said about Ableton Live), it opens a huge projects TON faster than Live and maybe bit faster than FL Studio and best of all two generation of free updates!

    There has lately been some super awesome stuff integrated into Reaper like notation and spectral editor :)
     
  20. Talmi

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    I agree all in all. But btw in my mind cubase is a daw that is in the spirit of Reaper (or vice versa), it's a workhorse and it can get complicated. The main difference is that cubase gives you access to a great workflow wihout needing to customize stuffs on your own, get srcipts, etc. It's easy for me to understand that one wouldn't want to do that. It's also why I got Cubase
    I also think that for producing once you get used to something like Live which is so easy and allows for unbounded creativity , Reaper becomes a painfull perspective. Clearly there are ways to get some aspects of Live in Reaper throught a few tweaks and customizations, but well Live has also unique features and plugins impossible to translate in Reaper which basically make the workflow Live gives access to. No one used to that would go to Reaper as a replacement, not that it can't be a good asset with Live as a companion.
     
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