make sure WINE is picking correct physical network interface address, else most of system ID based keygens won't work correctly

 

Theres always one of you guys lol. Bro just use windows or osx. Simple.

 

You mean you got R2R's NI RAS3 keygen to generate valid licenses on Wine?

I only have a single physical ethernet interface available, but running ipconfig in my wineprefix gives me the following order of available interfaces: "lo", "enp8s" (that's my physical one) and "docker0". What is your order and how do I change this for wine?

 

Last edited: Dec 22, 2024

simply use PlayOnLinux to create a virtual windows machine.
and install anything.

all audio windows stuff, keygen and co, works well on linux this way.

 

Use Windows. Debloat. Optimize. Everything is native. Everything is supported. You'll be happy. You won't need to work around any of this bullshit. Good luck. Wishing you all the best.

 

I have 400+ Windows plugins installed in various wine prefixes all created from the terminal with only those adjustments needed for specific plugins. I'm building wine from source via wine-tkg to get the fsync patches.

The RAS3 NI keygen from R2R is the only one consistently not generating a valid license on Wine. However, bobdule or TCD releases work fine on Wine.

Did you actually verify that R2R's NI RAS3 keygen works and generates a license accepted by the software when used via PlayOnLinux? I tried creating a fresh wine prefix via PlayOnLinux using Wine-TKG 9.21 but the license generated by the R2R NI RAS3 keygen isn't accepted by Kontakt 6.7.1 installed into that PlayOnLinux prefix.

 

Last edited: Dec 22, 2024

If it's not hard for you can you share list of working plugins/ your experience / and bugs and all that stuff. So interesting to know.
My Windows plugins list is not so big. Just a few fabfilter plugins, ValhallaDSP , Serum. Most of them are just single installer plugins, no APP Installers like NI, Waves Central and etc

 

in these versions, the kontakt fix also cut ras3 link, it never care about license... it can be legit, expired, keygened, or none.
R2R keygen works if you also install Native Access (service center) on the virtual system image. it need NativeAccess.xml.

 

NI Releases from R2R up to 18th of January 2020 all work fine on Wine 9.21 (Massive X 1.2.0, Reaktor 6.3.1, Massive 1.5.5, Battery 4.1.6, Kontakt 5.6.5) using the included keygen.

The last release with included keygen working on Wine is Raum 1.0.0. Any NI R2R release after that, starting with the release of Reaktor 6.4.0 on 22th of August 2020 has an included keygen producing an invalid license when used on Wine. Some of the tested releases with keygens producing invalid licenses on Wine are Reaktor 6.4.0, Guitar Rig 6.0.2, Massive X 1.3.1, Massive 1.5.8.

Side note: there's a small window for the old NI R2R keygens to still produce valid licenses for newer releases. For example, I was able to activate R2R releases of Reaktor 6.4.0 and Massive X 1.3.1 using R2R's keygens from older releases. But that window seems to close around 2021 with Massive 1.5.8.

@bobdule @Radio have you verified that R2R NI keygens from releases after early 2020 work with Wine v9.x and generate an activation that is accepted by the corresponding software?

I copied the Native Access.xml to "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Native Instruments\Service Center\NativeAccess.xml" for those releases that included one before running the included keygen. I didn't install the application Native Access since it isn't included in any of these releases and it's also not required on Windows for R2R releases. Is this how you got recent R2R NI releases working on Wine, by also installing Native Access? What exact versions (NI product version, Wine version, Native Access version) is working for you with its included R2R keygen?

 

Last edited: Dec 24, 2024

Sorry for taking a while to get back to you guys. To answer all the comments saying I should just use Windows/Mac: Yes, I am well aware I am insane/weird/whatever other thing you wanna call Linux audio people hahaha.

I'm pretty sure WINE is using the correct physical hardware address. It connects to the internet no bother with my legit plugs and doesn't cause any issues with them.

I did try the demos of the plugins that were giving me grief, as well as some non R2R cracks. That all worked fine.

I think I have all the necessary libraries installed. I've tried multiple new prefixes with many different libraries. Didn't see any difference in the result.

When I had virtual desktop enabled as a troubleshooting step, the pop-up windows in the offending plugins appeared on the window containing the virtual desktop and stayed there until I interacted with it, while the plugin itself carried away merrily on the DAW's plugin window as normal. Seems to me the pop-up windows really are the only offending feature. Maybe it's something like the child window has lost its parent? Or something like that.

Here's a WINE log from Arturia's Synclavier V where I click the polyphonic menu, for example.

Code:

18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:combase:RoGetActivationFactory (L"Windows.UI.ViewManagement.UIViewSettings", {3694dbf9-8f68-44be-8ff5-195c98ede8a6}, 000000000C136FC8): semi-stub
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:win:RegisterTouchWindow hwnd 00000000000700CC, flags 0 stub!
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000000700CC 233 1 0000000000000000
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000000700CC 4a 1 0000000000000000
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000000700CC 49 1 0000000000000000
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:combase:RoGetActivationFactory (L"Windows.UI.ViewManagement.UIViewSettings", {3694dbf9-8f68-44be-8ff5-195c98ede8a6}, 000000000C136FC8): semi-stub
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:win:RegisterTouchWindow hwnd 00000000000800CC, flags 0 stub!
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000000800CC 233 1 0000000000000000
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000000800CC 4a 1 0000000000000000
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000000800CC 49 1 0000000000000000
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:combase:RoGetActivationFactory (L"Windows.UI.ViewManagement.UIViewSettings", {3694dbf9-8f68-44be-8ff5-195c98ede8a6}, 000000000C137138): semi-stub
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:win:RegisterTouchWindow hwnd 00000000001200DA, flags 0 stub!
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000001200DA 233 1 0000000000000000
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000001200DA 4a 1 0000000000000000
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000001200DA 49 1 0000000000000000
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:combase:RoGetActivationFactory (L"Windows.UI.ViewManagement.UIViewSettings", {3694dbf9-8f68-44be-8ff5-195c98ede8a6}, 000000000C1372A8): semi-stub
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:win:RegisterTouchWindow hwnd 00000000001200E0, flags 0 stub!
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000001200E0 233 1 0000000000000000
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000001200E0 4a 1 0000000000000000
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000001200E0 49 1 0000000000000000
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:combase:RoGetActivationFactory (L"Windows.UI.ViewManagement.UIViewSettings", {3694dbf9-8f68-44be-8ff5-195c98ede8a6}, 000000000C137418): semi-stub
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:win:RegisterTouchWindow hwnd 00000000001200E6, flags 0 stub!
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000001200E6 233 1 0000000000000000
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000001200E6 4a 1 0000000000000000
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000001200E6 49 1 0000000000000000
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:combase:RoGetActivationFactory (L"Windows.UI.ViewManagement.UIViewSettings", {3694dbf9-8f68-44be-8ff5-195c98ede8a6}, 000000000C137588): semi-stub
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:win:RegisterTouchWindow hwnd 00000000001200EC, flags 0 stub!
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000001200EC 233 1 0000000000000000
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000001200EC 4a 1 0000000000000000
18:26:56 [Synclavier V-28FOVYdi] [Wine STDERR] 18:26:56 [arturia] [STDERR] 0024:fixme:msg:ChangeWindowMessageFilterEx 00000000001200EC 49 1 0000000000000000

 

I guess you'll find this kind help on this forum https://linuxmusicians.com/

 

Probably, yeah. Not sure how they feel about discussing software piracy though

 

From their forum rules:

 

Complete stab in the dark, I'd try with a copy of a real bcryptprimitives.dll. I don't have R2R Native Instruments stuff, it's the only dll import I vaguely remember related to R2R NI releases.

 

Interesting idea. I tried the following:

1. copy bcryptprimitives.dll from a real Win10 system32 directory to a clean wineprefix system32 directory and overwrite
2. copy bcryptprimitives.dll from a real Win10 SysWOW64 directory to a clean wineprefix SysWOW64 directory and overwrite
3. Rune winecfg to set the override order of
   bcryptprimitives.dll to "Native, Built-in"
4. Install Kontakt 7
5. Copy NaticAccess.xml to C:/Program Files/Common Files/Native Instruments/Service Center
6. Run R2R keygen to create a license for Kontakt 7
7. Run Kontakt 7 -> Shows "Invalid License" and demo startup dialog

Is that roughly what you said I could try?

 

Yep - sucks it didn't work.

I don't have the R2R stuff installed. I'd continue trying to replace emulated dlls with real ones anyway (list dll imports from Kontakt (exe/vst3) and the R2R keygen (exe) -> grab real copies of those).

I don't know if ldd works on Windows PE binaries - I'm sure there's something that will though. Last resort -> install Visual Studio Community Edition and use "dumpbin /imports blah.vst3".

E: Wine ships with "winedump" apparently, should be able to do the same. Just spitballing ideas though.

 

@severance&pay

I'm using Linux with wine and yabrigde for some years now without problems. I don't use cracked plugins but I had some issues with plugins crashing in the past.

Things that I have tried that solved issues include changing wine version and setting up vulkan drivers in wine. For example, in my setup, Softube plugins like Amp Room and Marshall Silver Jubilee only works with wine7, newer plugins requires Vulkan drivers and so on, so there are some things you can do to use a spefic set of binaries or wine prefix for specific plugins.

What's your wine version?

Do you use TKG wine (https://github.com/Frogging-Family/wine-tkg-git) ?

Do you use Vulkan (https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk) ?

Have you checked yabridge compat options (https://github.com/robbert-vdh/yabridge?tab=readme-ov-file#compatibility-options) ?

Have you tried waiting a minute before clicking the buttons after opening the plugin ? (long story short, sometimes wine can't handle multiple network calls, so when you know something will trigger a request, you can wait before clicking on it)

There a few more things to try, but I'd start with these

 

Thanks, these are great tips!

The R2R Kontakt keygen version 3.2.1 doesn't seem to load any cryptographic library:

Code:

winedump dump -j import 'Kontakt Keygen v3.2.1.exe' | grep .dll
  offset 00007104 ADVAPI32.dll
  offset 00007118 SHELL32.dll
  offset 0000712c ole32.dll
  offset 00007140 COMCTL32.dll
  offset 00007154 USER32.dll
  offset 00007168 GDI32.dll
  offset 0000717c KERNEL32.dll

There's also nothing suspicious being logged when executing the keygen.

Kontakt 7 loads these libraries:

Code:

winedump dump -j import 'Kontakt 7.exe' | grep .dll
  offset 087f36cc dwmapi.dll
  offset 087f36e0 AVRT.dll
  offset 087f36f4 SETUPAPI.dll
  offset 087f3708 WINMM.dll
  offset 087f3730 WS2_32.dll
  offset 087f3758 MFReadWrite.dll
  offset 087f376c PROPSYS.dll
  offset 087f3780 api-ms-win-shcore-scaling-l1-1-1.dll
  offset 087f3794 ODBC32.dll
  offset 087f37a8 WINHTTP.dll
  offset 087f37bc CRYPT32.dll
  offset 087f37d0 dbghelp.dll
  offset 087f37e4 SHLWAPI.dll
  offset 087f37f8 bcrypt.dll
  offset 087f380c USER32.dll
  offset 087f3820 dxgi.dll
  offset 087f3834 POWRPROF.dll
  offset 087f3848 SHELL32.dll
  offset 087f385c KERNEL32.dll
  offset 087f3870 VERSION.dll
  offset 087f3884 ole32.dll
  offset 087f3898 OLEAUT32.dll
  offset 087f38ac MF.dll
  offset 087f38c0 dxva2.dll
  offset 087f38d4 EVR.dll
  offset 087f38e8 UxTheme.dll
  offset 087f38fc Secur32.dll
  offset 087f3910 ncrypt.dll
  offset 087f3924 d3d11.dll
  offset 087f3938 DWrite.dll
  offset 087f394c GDI32.dll
  offset 087f3960 IMM32.dll
  offset 087f3974 WTSAPI32.dll
  offset 087f3988 COMDLG32.dll
  offset 087f399c d3d9.dll
  offset 087f39b0 api-ms-win-core-synch-l1-2-0.dll
  offset 087f39c4 MPR.dll
  offset 087f39d8 USERENV.dll
  offset 087f39ec ADVAPI32.dll
  offset 087f3a00 AUTHZ.dll
  offset 087f3a14 NETAPI32.dll
  offset 087f3a28 api-ms-win-core-winrt-string-l1-1-0.dll
  offset 087f3a3c api-ms-win-core-winrt-l1-1-0.dll
  offset 087f3a50 MSVCP140.dll
  offset 087f3a64 MSVCP140_1.dll
  offset 087f3a78 MSVCP140_2.dll
  offset 087f3a8c MSWSOCK.dll
  offset 087f3aa0 CONCRT140.dll
  offset 087f3ab4 VCRUNTIME140.dll
  offset 087f3ac8 VCRUNTIME140_1.dll
  offset 087f3adc api-ms-win-crt-runtime-l1-1-0.dll
  offset 087f3af0 api-ms-win-crt-heap-l1-1-0.dll
  offset 087f3b04 api-ms-win-crt-math-l1-1-0.dll
  offset 087f3b18 api-ms-win-crt-convert-l1-1-0.dll
  offset 087f3b2c api-ms-win-crt-string-l1-1-0.dll
  offset 087f3b40 api-ms-win-crt-stdio-l1-1-0.dll
  offset 087f3b54 api-ms-win-crt-utility-l1-1-0.dll
  offset 087f3b68 api-ms-win-crt-filesystem-l1-1-0.dll
  offset 087f3b7c api-ms-win-crt-time-l1-1-0.dll
  offset 087f3b90 api-ms-win-crt-locale-l1-1-0.dll
  offset 087f3ba4 api-ms-win-crt-environment-l1-1-0.dll
  offset 087f3bb8 api-ms-win-crt-multibyte-l1-1-0.dll

I tried to replace the following (including overriding via winecfg): bcrypt.dll, crypt32.dll, ncrypt.dll, bcryptprimitives.dll and rsaenh.dll. The last one wasn't directly listed via winedump but logged when running wine with one of the other libraries replaced.

But still: either Kontakt 7 rejects the authorization (and usually continues to log "01d0:fixme:bcrypt:BCryptGenRandom ignoring selected algorithm").

Or it crashes like this:

Code:

018c:fixme:ntdll:EtwRegisterTraceGuidsW   register trace class {SOME_GUID}
018c:fixme:process:NtQueryInformationProcess (0xffffffffffffffff,info_class=86,0x11f4f0,0x000000b0,(nil)) Unknown information class
018c:fixme:ntdll:EtwEventSetInformation (deadbeef, 2, 00006FFFFDF5C84F, 55) stub
018c:err:module:loader_init "bcrypt.dll" failed to initialize, aborting
018c:err:module:loader_init Initializing dlls for L"C:\\Program Files\\Native Instruments\\Kontakt 7\\Kontakt 7.exe" failed, status c0000142

Any other idea?