R2R is the goat, but I feel like VR doesnt get enough appreciation.

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  1. hazeybaby

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    A lot of community members have been such dicks in the comments of some of their releases and im over here thinking, just take your free shit and say thank you... if it doesnt work just let them know what the problem is and move along..

     
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    I do like the way VR include extra preset packs with some of their releases
     
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    Let's start a Eurovision style vote to show our appreciation for the cracking teams.

    Here are the votes from the UK Jury:

    R2R: 15
    RET: 12
    VR: 10
    FLARE: 8
    P2P: 5
    MORIA: 3
     
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    No matter who cracks the software, we should be thankful for their efforts, what one person doesn't need, another might, and some teams or individuals don't get the credit they deserve, we should always say thank you to whoever posts something in the community, whither we ourselves need it or not.....imho
     
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    Thanks to all teams, they are all to be treated equally and respected. Each of you do your best, I thank you for that.

    Abba - Thank You For The Music and Thank You Team V.R
     
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    :facepalm:
     
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    Isn't it funny how on here plenty of people are sad about the fact that the top 0.1% of musicians take all the fame, money and success, while in the warez community around here many do the same with giving R2R and RET most of the enthusiasm and attention, while many smaller crackers won't get seen in the shadows?
     
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    I barely have time for music as it is without wasting that time troubleshooting bad cracks
     
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    I agree, but if you have time to go back and leave a comment, you should have time to say what the problem is without the need for any kind of rude shit.. I just think its childish to be acting like that while targeting certain groups
     
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    a part of the responsibility of legitimate groups is performing testing before releasing software. an occasional error is acceptable, many dozens a year is absolutely not
     
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    welcome all teams
    left defeat cubase pro 8, vengenace glitch bitch, nexus 3, sonnox, soundtoys...
    brainworx too =x
    :wink:
     
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    That's is the whole true and whole philosophy i would like to say in just one sentence... :like::like::like:
     
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    I have said many times and then I was attacked by Team VR fans... Then I was rude towards them also... I respect him (TEAM VR), thanks, but like it is forbidien to say when something is wrong with the crack ...
    Simply is not acceptable for old group to not to have a single release to be packed how supposed to...

    Therefore we have errors and all nasty things and conflicts when you mix TEAM R2R and TEAM VR crack....
    And when you mentioned, yes, TEAM VR forces you too install HIS certificate in your Windows even without giving a proper notice, in other hand a lot of people was talking nasty things about R2R when they gave to us to install their certificate, by ourselves, not with some automatic installation method or even to be hidden inside installer.... What a nonsense. BTW, no matter how hard he tries, certificate is not valid and Windows is not accepting it.... Team R2R works just fine for releases that are signet with that certificate....
    And if you don't trust me,Just check latest eLiceners release, and for me that is not transparent game and i am not playing it, no anymore with him!
     
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    If your time is that valuable, you'd probably be better off actually paying for your software.
     
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    I might install some VR/CE warez if it's brand new stuff that hasn't been cracked by R2R yet -- but I'd rather avoid it where possible. Sometimes it'll work with R2R installs from the same developers, but chances are, it'll screw up my longstanding installations.

    I won't install VR stuff just for updates. If an older R2R release exists, I'm going with that every time. I value their releases. I'm grateful they're out there doing what they do. But I'll only install it if I absolutely have to.
     
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    I am still using Omnisphere that has been released from Team R2R, some are okay, but i am sticking with something that is 100% secure ... Team VR is a option, almost never and only on virtual machines... On my main PC , no , no , NO
     
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    If it's fame and fortune that you're seeking, software piracy probably shouldn't be your number one career choice
     
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    By saying this, you are therefore admitting that those who use bad cracks from V.R are the ones who can waste their time. And if they can waste their time, it's because they're not using these plugins seriously but only collecting them or play some presets randomly for 10 minutes... reason why they never complain.
     
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    If we dig a little deeper, R2R themselves are the first ones to trash&bash team VR... and not always in the most elegant way...
    Yes, r2r are Gods... but before r2r, they were ASSIGN... etc etc...
    Not only they have been cracking stuff for maybe +20 years, but they're probably 5..10..or even 20 crackers.
    And if that wasn't enough, they must have dozens, if not hundreds of beta testers, and they have a few guys who can provide the 10s of thousands of $/€ those many plugins can cost.

    And who is VR ? A lone wolf, who spends 18h a day trying HIS BEST.
    And of course, VR doesn't have tens..or hundreds of beta testers, and don't have tens of big suppliers that can buy full retail apps.
    That's why, I guess, VR must often rely on demo versions, as there is no way he/them can purchase $800 retail bundles

    People here, and audioss often laugh and criticize VR... but forget VR is probably 1 million times more talented, skilled and intelligent than +95% of the users...

    Honestly, I would like to se a bit of class, and humbleness from r2r (of which they have very little...), and would prefer watching R2R HELP VR, and explain a few tricks, methods, etc... instead of bashing VR in almost every single NFO...

    Yes, VR probably only needs to learn a few important things, from R2r... and VR could probably, in just a couple of weeks or months, become 10... or even 100 times better than today!
    But R2r doesn't want that.

    Also, regarding resources... when was the last time one VR release had its mirrors locked ? YEAH, NEVER...
    meanwhile, r2r releases are 100% mirror- locked... and at the end of the day, when you have 5000 or 8000 downloads via uploaded or rapirgator premium, that ends up making some substantial amounts of cash... which allows the suppliers to buy and supply stuff.. which allows r2r to have access to all kinds of different apps with different copy protections... and learn even more stuff..
    Like a cycle...
    And how much do VR make, with unlimited mirrors ? Probably 0 !

    Yes, remember.. VR is probably very close to becoming SUPER GOOD... it would only take some help from r2r... which is impossible, r2r being r2r

    Today, r2r are proudly releasing all (or rather 10-20%) of all the ilok plugins they have cracked. But WHAT IF AUDIOUTOPIA hadn't taught them how to bypass the ilok stuff ? Well, today, probably, there would be 0 ilok- based releases from r2r. Z E R O
    so, at one point, r2r were SUPER HAPPY to be able to get the audioutopia 'savoir-faire' , regarding ilok, right...

    That's why they should be a bit more humble... and teach VR few things.

    And you know what happens when people laugh at VR, call him/ them all kinds of names, and make VR feel like shit ?
    Well, what happens, behind the scenes is, anytime a SUPER TALENTED CRACKER starts considering cracking a few plugins, and release them to the community, they see the difference in treatment, between r2r... and VR... and 1 minute later, they say 'never mind, if I screw up, 500'000 audioz users will laugh and bash me...I'd better not release whatsoever '...

    Yes, when anyone from the shadows sees how r2r are treated as the messiah, even if they release some crap, and they see how VR gets treated... for sure they don't even want to try.

    Another thing, there were many apps, we only got a release from r2r BECAUSE the VR version wasn't working 100% flawlessly... and so R2r decided to release THEIR version, solely to prove the planet how good they are, how much better than VR they are.. and how bad VR is !
    Otherwise, without that first flawed VR release, R2r would have probably never released their proper version of that plugin !

    By the way, where are the guys like copylefter... mono... army of ninjas... if I remember well, those guys KNEW how to Crack stuff...
    Where are they ?
    Again, Iwill repeat, there probably are tens, if not hundreds of guys, who are probably even more talented than r2r...but if they don't released stuff to the community, is probably because they don't want to get the 'VR TREATMENT '... and see their self-esteem take a serious hit...

    Like others said, VR really do his/ their best. It is a pleasure, to install a, say, Diva, and have basically ALL the soundbanks that were ever released.. + many more I had never heard of !

    R2r guys.. I know you read all the threads with 'r2r' inside... why aren't you sharing some of your knowledge with a few other guys like VR ?
    How many times, throughout these 2 decades, some groups or members have shared their precious techniques... with you ?
    Say hi to audioutopia and the ilok...

    I don't know how VR still finds the courage to keep cracking and releasing stuff, after seeing release after release getting a ton of backlash...
    That's what I call passion and perseverance...

    At the end, guys, don't forget this. Without any (healthy) competition, there is what we call monopoly. And we all know how bad that is: video games... social media(any new actor like parlor that gets over 50 million users immediately becomes a major threat to the big guys, threat that must be eliminated asap, in a pitiless, merciless way..)...music...food...transportation...drugs...science... all monopolies are bad.
    That's why, because of a monopoly, a few years ago, r2r stayed almost 1 entire year without releasing a single plugin... because , among several reasons, they were fed up of people asking this or that release.
    1 year without a single r2r release. Why ? Because monopoly. Had the scene had 2 or 3 other groups, even small, that would kept releasing new plugins every single week, well.... r2r would have NEVER stopped releasing for almost 12 months... because, well, the planet would still spin, WITHOUT THEM.
    but because they had no competition, they could treat members and punish them, with 0 releases for almost 12 months... like if members had killed someone or had started a 3rd world War, by simply requesting some stuff...

    Yes, the more competition there is, the better for the community. And when the competition is 'healthy', it's even better...!
    If R2r were willing to share (some of) their knowledge with other groups or people (like VR), today, there would be 5..10..or 20 other 'RET' groups... and there would be 2..3.. or even 5 more releases !
    It is much better and productive when 10 or 20 brains work... then only 5....3..or 1 brain !
    Just imagine what could eventually be done, if RET, VR, and 5 or 10 other guys/ groups could have access to at least 50% of what r2r knows...

    But no. Maybe someone can explain WHY do R2R HATE VR so much... and keep on criticizing him, bashing him, humiliating him... and DESPISING him/them...? Or was it VR who started...? I don't remember seeing VR attacking r2r...
    Because at the end, we all know r2r are the best in class... true coding God's...probably 100 times more skilled than steinberg, brainworks, avid, and most big devs... so... R2R have absolutely nothing to prove. They don't need to release a proper r2r release, just after VRs one, just to prove VR version is not well/ 100% cracked, and show the world how ridiculous VR is, and above everything, WHO IS THE BEST.

    Like 2 or more dudes competing to see who's got the BIGGEST SCHLONG...(lol, in that case, VR against r2r, we already KNOW who would be the WINNER , in THAT particular regard (LOOOL...)

    Anyway...
     
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