R2R is angry.....

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by bluerover, Nov 22, 2017.

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  1. GreatJobChamp

    GreatJobChamp Producer

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    So the (No Instal / Symlink) junk is a kick to R2R groin then... right?

    and wow, I guess I didn't notice any holiday releases.
     
  2. playtime

    playtime Rock Star

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    While I absolutely understand R2R and their anger about this matter, I also agree with some people on this thread saying "why are you acting like drama queens?"

    Don't get me wrong... R2R are heroes of the scene. They gave us tremendeous gifts over the years and I highly praise their work.

    But dear R2R - we, the majority who respect you and DON'T make money from your work... we can't do nothing about it. We have followed all your wishes, accepted without hesitation your "R2R_IS_AGAINST_BUSINESS_WAREZ" host blocker, your rules, trusted in you and supported you all the way.
    So what can we do? Nothing more.

    Just remember the old heroes like AiR or H2O. They also suffered from money makers of their work but it didn't stop them. They remained heroes to this day. Proud to be big part of scene history and legends who got over it and continued with their heads up high.

    So if you want to stop releasing, then stop. Be the drama queens. I don't care. I can't do more than what you asked. I will be eternally grateful for what you gave us, but I can't take more threats. You have your dignity, I have mine.

    Peace.
     
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  3. odod

    odod Rock Star

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    Middle Finger to those who MONETIZE R2R's Releases .. think about this, they did so many things for us already .. a bit grateful wouldn't hurt your ass okay ? just a lil bit .. and try to be "open minded" . go with other warez to monetize .. but please not audiowarez ..

    i miss old Delirium's forum ..
     
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  4. Moogerfooger

    Moogerfooger Audiosexual

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    All I know is they do the hard shit so we can easily install it and use it.... Why fuck it up for everyone else???? Oh ya that’s right, the world is a selfish place. It always has and unfortunately it’s more selfish than ever.... Mac please?
     
  5. wakiki

    wakiki Noisemaker

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    Totally agree with R2R in everything. They are straight and have 100% true.
     
  6. Aliens

    Aliens Guest

    Looks like a direct challenge to the AZ site owner - Stop sunny's repacks, stop the simlink repacks or go hungry and die.
     
  7. SineWave

    SineWave Audiosexual

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    I don't give a fuck about R2R any more. Who remembers them anyway? These days they only release what other teams released already. Lame. Just forget about them. V.R is the new king! :wink:

    This is probably my last post on AZ and AS as I'm going to get banned. So long folks! It's been nice meeting you and discussing things. :mates:

    I have AudioNews to download from now. They have a nice forum, too. If someone needs an invitation just PM me.

    Goodbye! :wink: Fuck R2R and money makers, too! :headbang:
     
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  8. playtime

    playtime Rock Star

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    I feel ya bro. And I don't think you should be banned because you stood up and said out loud what you think. I don't think it's against forum rules.
    And I don't think we should lose anyone who made valuable contributions to the community. Whether it's R2R or you :mates:
     
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  9. bluerover

    bluerover Audiosexual

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    I think that they're all the same people.
     
  10. ia

    ia Producer

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    You are really right R2R. I'm with you! These moneymakers deserve this punishment. Let's see how they can make money without your hard work
     
  11. Kloud

    Kloud Guest

    Is pretty simple but this just from my perspective :yes:

    1.) Why dont more people read the .nfo? Is common sense really as it the most direct way of the groups communicating with the general public. Then people might stop the speculation and rumours and take heed of what they say and choose?
    From theirs would say it’s pretty evident -

    a.] They against business -They don’t get paid so why the hell should anyone else using their stuff that they kind enough to release? If in doubt check the log, support official releases and actively support those who put profit back directly into the system rather than keep it for themselves like many of the lame asses around now.

    b.) They don’t like people repackaging their stuff and using their keygens - Again pretty simple. Look at all the symlink trash with “all credits blah..” How much of that stuff be available without keygens, someone with actual skills as in someone who can reverse? So all in all is pretty simple.
    Take a look at the log and actually look at how much is now being released where reversing applied etc - How many groups are actively doing this as compared to the amount of people simply repacking, hex comparing and doing everything they against to make a few dollars.
    How much is now being released whereby it simple shit that has no copy protection or a tutorial or sample packs etc?

    So all in all choice is all yours - If you want them to continue then do the few very simple things they ask and support the good guys rather than the ones who just want $$$.
    If they disappear then there be even less decent stuff appearing and all the hex copy warriors and that disappear once the protection changed coz the only ones left be the ones with no skills or moral fibre - Peace :bow:
     
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  12. virusg

    virusg Rock Star

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    SAiNT this is too much brother... now it's time to act, just do it whatever the consequences, couldn't be any more worse than this... block all money makers, if they won't obey, ban them... it has become very irritating and hysterical all this bs... not for R2R but for the community you dream about some years ago... now look at this mess... did you wanted this? I don't think so... nor 99% of those who are in here... with all doe respect in the name of audio community here, take a stand as you are the only one.

    Best Regards

    virusg
     
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  13. colt451_2

    colt451_2 Noisemaker

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    R2R,
    I have never respected any group as much as you - because of your extreme cracking skillz, your diligence with notifying both developers of flaws in their installers and protection, your fixing of those developer flaws in your releases, and your giving spirit.
    I beg you, as only one of so many people who are just poor, hard-working musicians who could never afford often the most inexpensive appz (let alone the expensive, complex ones), NOT to penalize the many, many people who depend on you to help us dream big, and try harder with good tools - and who only download your legitimately posted work, generally with limited links supplied by trusted uploaders like horsemen, etc.
    We have ( the 99.99% of us who simply are grateful to you and do as we are supposed to do, with no intention of feeding the 'pigs' who try to make money from your work, who you provide with so much joy with each new release), NO CONTROL over those people we don't even know, nor (most of us) any knowledge of how those people profit from stealing your work.
    I understand why this would make you angry (a few people taking your work and trying to profit from it) - but you say you do your work because you 'support us - as long as we understand..."
    This is an issue we have no participation in, little knowledge of, and wish wasn't happening at all. But WHY, why would you simply stop releasing to those of us to whom you are heros - and punish us in that way for some few whose actions are unconscionable?
    This is an issue between people that we don't know, don't download from, and whose goal seems to be not just to profit from your work, but perhaps something more insidious: has anyone stopped to consider that this may be being done to make you angry enough to stop releasing?
    If this is true, then (in the same way that terrorists end goals are to destroy the trust that exists between people, and to create havoc in order to end freedoms), who would be doing it, and who would stand to gain by seeing you stop releasing and becoming angry at innocent and guilty alike?
    This isn't about 'following the money' - it's about 'following the motive.' The large developers, and organizations who are hired to protect 'intellectual property rights' of developers - may have found the perfect way to neutralize you, and make you stop what you are doing: by playing on your pride in your work, your ideals (helping poor musicians with your releases), and your anger.
    If you play into this, and cease releasing, it will not be those who are goading you into anger, it will be 'the little people' - us, those who trust your releases and love you for what you do, who will suffer, because of those we have no control over.
    I have been involved in this scene since the Internet began (and before it, when there were only Newsgroups, with sometimes hundreds of files to download from a telephone modem), and there have always been people who will try to profit from hard-working, generous crackers and releasers like yourselves, and this will always be true. The only thing that has really changed in all this time is the speed with which appz can be downloaded, and more ways for those who intend to profit from generous releasers like yourselves to do so.
    But there is a saying: "Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater," and it applies here:
    PLEASE, do not allow yourselves to be manipulated into throwing us away with those few whose intentions are to make you do just that.
    I so look forward each holiday (even - maybe most especially) the Japanese ones I didn't even know about. I have a life which has too little family, too few friends, and too much loneliness in it); I was very sick for a long time, and found that even those you thought loved you would turn away when things got tough; and often, these holiday releases are such a little light in my world.
    - I don't pretend to know you personally, but I feel that I know your souls: and they are artists souls - creative, and giving, but sensitive to exploitation or other blows to your generous spirits.
    DO NOT let a few 'bad apples' change the nature and direction of your souls: follow your hearts, and your nature, and help those of us out here who are so grateful for your gifts - both as creators of top-quality software releases (often superior to the developers themselves), and literally, the 'gifts' you provide us with these special releases.
    Don't let a few 'bad actors' change the joy you feel about being able to do what so few can do, and in providing it to those of us who love you for both what you CAN do, and what you CONTINUE to do.
    That is my plea - to think deeper, consider the innocent while contemplating the very few guilty, and to not allow your spirits to be undermined by what will always exist, no matter what anyone can do: a few greedy, or mean-spirited, or underhanded manipulators attempting to try to get you to stop your efforts to help the rest of us, and in so doing damage both your own feelings, and leave those of us who trust you, stranded in a boat that suddenly has no rudder.
    Thank you for everything you have done, and know that nearly everyone (except the two extremes, both tiny numbers - those who feel, perhaps, that you are undermining their profits, and others, at the opposite end of the spectrum, who feel that they can profit by your work), respects you, your work, your diligence, your persistence, your generosity, sense of humor, and the tools you bring us, so that we may pursue both knowledge and music at a higher level than we ever could without you.
    - Sincerely,
    a friend you have never met, and one who hopes you will not be changed in your spirit by anything or anyone wishing to harm you, or profit from you and your work.
    Remember us - we are the ones you set out to help, after your skillz became so formidable that you COULD help us. There is little enough joy in the world - and you are a part of what is left - and know that we will always remember you, and love you for what you have done for us.
    - Happy holidays to you, and a joyous new year is ahead - if we all can only focus on the good, and turn aside from the darkness, knowing it is only empty shadows. (Colt451_2)
     
  14. thecow

    thecow Guest

    AZ screw BIG TIME with the symlink stuff...it should NEVER have been allowed, neither keep letting sunny upload anything.
    Soon R2R will add AZ to the hosts files lol It's a money machine anyway, every justification just a big joke told to naive people.
     
  15. E.C.R

    E.C.R Platinum Record

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    its called karma...
    always thanks and love to R2R, Horsemen, Funtime and Decibelle and a few other good people who contribute great things....platensoul etc etc
    but when you put your own interests over contributors and active members, They will eventually stop!
     
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  16. spyfx

    spyfx Guest

    be careful my friend,you are not excluded from karma :bow: all is good,peace,love everything !
     
  17. Noss

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    outstanding work over here. Thanks R2R :wink:
     
  18. spyfx

    spyfx Guest

    2 eveRyone that is going to bed,good night ! & make good love 2 youR ladies !
    2 eveRyone that is waking up good morning ! & make good love 2 youR ladies !
    R2R make good love to youR ladies (& never stop doing what u do !)
     
  19. Voo

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    Was Symlink created so releases can get around the host file thing? I'm not to up on why its needed,
    Why repack what has been the system of choice for years? Its R2R's releases. Why piss them off?

    AND stop drama posts about R2R. It almost looks intentional that the idiots are pissing off R2R once a week.

    We went from Daily releases to only on Holidays to some Holidays. Ridiculous to the majority that behave and are entirely grateful for things.
     
  20. burgvogt

    burgvogt Kapellmeister

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    Where would we be without r2r? No extensive testing of applications, no way to decide about their usefulness. First try then buy - is my motto. I am for banning those NO Install offers from sister website if they cause r2r to stop releasing.
     
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