R2R cracked Acustica, I just can't believe it

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  1. Gyorgy Ligeti

    Gyorgy Ligeti Rock Star

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    Let's wait a little longer @Stevie Dude. Repacks with the 48khz missing files should arrive these days. At least I hope so, because currently there are few usable AAs.
     
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  2. DarkFader

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    Acustica
     
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  3. DontKnowJack

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    That Diamond Dynamic Saturator is buggy as all hell. If you select a preset, the plugin goes mute.

    I say start that thread, @Stevie Dude. This one turned into a soap opera.
     
  4. BasedPirate

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    Latest NFOs from R2R releases of Acustica products
     
  5. Stevie Dude

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    Ah yes that too. the Massive presets right ? I think I posted on the sister's site about it and forgot about it now. Will slowly draft the thread later tonight.

    wait, this thread isn't intended to be soap opera ?
     
  6. peezy666

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    The compressors are ass compared to hardware which I own plenty of hardware but the eqs are really good. The eqs can't be beat , however when comparing the compression of Gold to my 2254 clone the clone is much much better at the compression and sound. I compared tim p to my 1176 rev d and his is good, but still not like the hardware in character and shaving those peaks effectively. The la2a of Tim p is close and sounds really good. I have a audioscape to compare with. I'll have a vari mu soon to try against the tim p. In all honestly nebula 4 Tim p sounds better than some of these acustica releases when it comes to compressors. Pink I like better than the red rock ones which is was using before the pink got cracked.
     
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  7. DontKnowJack

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    It seems to go mute with any Factory or Massive preset. I thought it might work in a different sampling rate after reading this:
    But the plugin also goes mute in 96kHz.

    With so many actors here, across 28 pages, it's getting harder to keep track of what's what. :unsure:
     
  8. mrreboot

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    Am I the only one who never even heard Acustica before they get cracked?
     
  9. DontKnowJack

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    You are most definitely not.
     
  10. Arabian_jesus

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    You definitely need to uninstall and remove all traces of the R2R Acustica Audio Framework before you install and try to run Aquarius. Removing the R2R Framework will cause all k'ed plugins to not work though. I don't think there's any way you will be able to use both legit and k'ed plugins together.
     
  11. JoeShepherd

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    I agree 100%. Junkcarlo is just an arrogant business man focused primarily in one thing: MONEY.
     
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  12. DontKnowJack

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    So is CM Punk. What else is a businessman supposed to be focused on?
     
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  13. DarkFader

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    Respect of his buyers…. Safety of his buyers…. No joke with his buyers…. Education in conversation…. And sooo maaaanyyy thingsss my captain obvious :bow:
     
  14. amessenger

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    One thing that has yet to be mentioned here, as far as I can see, is how so many users have asked for improvement and updating to existing plugs throughout the years, back when there were a much smaller number of products, with each new release bringing much-touted advances in tech of sampling, IR post-proc, Core 25,etc etc

    Cant believe there are actually 100 products now, thats hilarious.
    mine (legit) are all STILL where they were when I lost interest in them years ago.... this seems like a joke, and speaks of priorities very different from the one the boss consistently tries to portray in his posts

    My own story is short: Some time ago I learned about Acustica, got swept up by the hype, bought a few plugs, was happy with the EQs but absolutely BEWILDERED by the behavior of the compressors, which then inspired me to begin combing through the huge AA thread at GS, learned about the evolution of certain issues. i posted on said thread re: WEIRD compression, received evasive reply from boss which did not at all address compression character, went on to view many more such evasive replies to other issues, lost interest in products and company

    years later, here we are at end of story: r2r once again makes headlines, reminds me of Acusticas existence, causes me to check for any improvements or major updates to the plugs which i own, see that NOTHING has progressed except the sheer NUMBER of products, shrug my shoulders in futility to the money ive spent, enjoy at least some peace in the thought that i wont be spending any more on whatever pre civil war channel strip they release next

    one pattern this thread here has highlighted for me is his tendency to tell us all how great business is doing when backed into a corner, check out some of the more memorable debates over at the GS thread and see if you dont catch that too.

    not trying to be a d**k, just that it all has a really weird vibe to it, and i cannot help but point that out
     
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  15. bluebone

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    I'm enjoying this drama as hot cake (thx R2R). But one thing i know for certain, i will not even test those plugins, because i'm only testing what i would eventually buy.
     
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  16. Trurl

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    My thoughts as well, I was momentarily excited to see what the fuss was about but after all this I'm not interested. I certainly wouldn't be buying them. The positive reviews are all for the eqs and I have fine eqs. If plugins like Kirchoff aren't good enough then I suppose ignorance is bliss.
     
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    The preamps really have, they respond much smoother now and don't have that (low) 'breakpoint'.

    At least on the older plugins. ZL isn't really ZL, but needs more CPU and sounds worse.
     
  19. Barncore

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    As someone still trying to decide whether to stay legit or go R2R, I gotta say all these plugins coming out in only 44k and 96k makes that decision very hard. Tbh, I think I have to stay legit.

    People should definitely be aware that these R2R plugs are the trial versions and not the full versions. That's no small fact. People outside of the Acustica ecosystem may not know it, but the trial versions and full versions are completely different .exe's. The trial version is released in parallel with the full version on release day, but after that, the full version is the one that gets updated and optimised (especially in those first few weeks after release) and the trial version gets left behind. The trial is basically a janky version of the plugin that can basically be ignored imo. I feel like this is a pretty important piece of information that ppl here need to know.

    Something else that's important to know...
    Acustica release a new plugin every month (somehow). They have an "intro price" discount for the first month. When the plugin is first released, it ALWAYS has a bug, or just something they overlooked, and sometimes if enough ppl request/complain in the first week of release Acustica will tweak or optimise some sorta functionality. (E.g. Midnight was somehow released recently with an output knob that didn't work, it got fixed days later with an update, which isn't included in the R2R version. This is normal behaviour from Acustica). The reason Acustica have an intro price is because it's essentially a public beta.
    And since trial versions don't really get updated, it means that trial versions are basically beta versions, which means that the R2R releases are beta versions. They don't have various big fixes and optimisations.

    Trial versions do get updated sometimes, but it can't be relied on.

    Ppl need to know this. R2R needs to know this.
    Stevie Dude hopefully you include this tidbit in your megathread.

    Maybe I'm wrong, maybe Acustica have started updating trial versions in parallel with the full versions now, but as far as I'm aware that's not the case. Or at least it wasn't a few yrs ago. In my mind, I have never trusted the optimisation of the trial versions.

    Personally I delete the ZL versions.
    They use more CPU (in order to get lower latency).
    The only reason to use ZL is if you want to track with them. But I don't know why anyone in their right mind would wanna track through Acustica plugins. They are definitely more geared towards the mixing/mastering phase than the recording phase
     
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  20. peezy666

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    The thing I found the interesting is some of the eq or compressor only versions use on more CPU than the entire channel strip. Once again, these are good eqs, but algos are like 5-10% below in sound imo with less of the bugs and lagging. I decided to just use the pink and order eqs others only in vocals and master and continue to use my algos for synth and drums since those spread out across many tracks. Compressors I'll stick with Tim p.
     
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