R2R 2023/2024 AA Guides, Bug Reports, Issues & Fixes Megathread (WIN)

Alejandrito · Dec 21, 2023

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Found the problem with Tulip OVS: don't drive it too much and it will oversample correctly. Man, I love this one
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In fact, if you read the manuals they recommend reaching -18dbs almost in every pre amp unless you want some dostortion sound.

shinyzen · Dec 22, 2023

@Stevie Dude dudeeee. i never tried the josh gudwin magic flow. I just gave it a once over and wasnt interested, thought it was some stupid gimmick thing like CLA vocals. After reading your in depth analysis of it i thought id give it a shot, and sheeeit. This thing is really good. I have a mix ive been working on that i thought was good, but was just lacking. just wasnt quite there. I slapped it on, basically followed your guide, and boom, it just opened the song up, breathed a little life into it. Appreciate your in depth reviews and philosophies behind these plugins.

Stevie Dude · Dec 22, 2023

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@Stevie Dude dudeeee. i never tried the josh gudwin magic flow. I just gave it a once over and wasnt interested, thought it was some stupid gimmick thing like CLA vocals. After reading your in depth analysis of it i thought id give it a shot, and sheeeit. This thing is really good. I have a mix ive been working on that i thought was good, but was just lacking. just wasnt quite there. I slapped it on, basically followed your guide, and boom, it just opened the song up, breathed a little life into it. Appreciate your in depth reviews and philosophies behind these plugins.
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Glad it worked for you. Anyway, here's Spotify playlist of songs mixed by Josh Gudwin that I use for reference with the plugin :

Guide : http://audiosex.pro/threads/r2r-202...ixes-megathread-win.73054/page-23#post-743265
Playlist : https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6P6tB2W4YgDU5q8D2VN8Ce?si=50098e2ffb7f4f0e

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Zoundzy · Oct 9, 2024

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saccamano · Dec 24, 2023

Could someone who has successfully installed the latest scene Nebula 4.5 AND R2R aa framework and has them running side by side without issues write up an install step by step for the NEBULA 4.5 part?

thanks in advance

outsider · Dec 26, 2023

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Josh Gudwin's Magic Flow - A Guide
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I've learn everything about this plugin few weeks ago and been using them whenever I got the chance to and must say right now I kinda understand how to get the best out of it. So since I got nothing better thing to do while waiting for football games later, maybe I'll just share how I use it.

WHAT
- it's a plugin that combines all Josh Gudwin's hybrid analog + digital workflow in one that capable of giving the user his signature sound.
- me personally I think it excels at taking a pop mix up a level effortlessly to make it sound familiar like every other big pop mix out there, it can't fix a bad mix of course, but it can make an already good mix, great just by itself.
- 100% I use it as Stereo Bus processor, the plugin however was initially designed as vocal processor but ended up as Stereo Bus processor
- the plugin consists 8-10 sections (depends on how you view it) that can be turned ON/OFF by clicking the Spiral/Cyclone at the top of it.

OPERATION
1) launch the plugin, find all 6 of the Spiral/Cyclone logo and turn them OFF. Turn off the MID BUMP at the Output section too. Find the loudest part of the song/track, loop that part.

2) turn on PREAMP, set INSERT to ON, QUALITY to GOOD, DRY/WET to 100%

- PREAMP & INSERT is basically Josh's analogue signal flow that involves his usual gears in his signal flow, it's AA plugin so it's a good idea to turn them on to get the best out of AA plugin, 95% of the time you'd want to turn them on all the time. It's high quality, high fidelity SPL gears, so not doing anything too obvious.
- QUALITY - GOOD is good enough, you may change it to SUPERB before render if you wish but don't use the NORMAL quality at all because it will introduced EQ cramping and that's a big no.

3) set the INPUT LEVEL (bottom left), when you hover your mouse on the slider, the display section at the center of the plugin will show SUGGESTED LEVEL set the input to the suggested value.

- as with all AA plugin, gain staging is the most important first step when using any of their plugin, bad gain staging, bad result.
- the Suggested Level is where the plugin is optimized to work at, to give the best result it could

4) turn ON the FILTERS, set the HIGH CUT to 16kHz (will explain later), leave LOW CUT alone or if you need to set it, do it, no problem. If the music is in the "Lo-Fi" genre, turn it down to 10kHz and go below from there.

- LOW CUT is a 6dB/octave steepness, so it's smooth.
- HIGH CUT is 12dB/octave but a little special. From 20kHz down to 10kHz it behaves normally, but when it reaches 10kHz it will turn ON a Lo-Fi effect which is some kind of mid bump, it's Josh's thing, dunno much about it but can be cool for Lo-Fi music. It looks like this :

- 16kHz so it won't mess up with the dynamic processing too much. Not sure if it's true or applicable for every situation but during my usage when I don't set it to 16kHz dynamic processing becomes weird and too sensitive sometimes and hard to get good result. For now for leave it at 16kHz, will revisit later.

5) turn on the PEAK LEVELLING and.. level some peak, you'd not want to go more than 1.5dB GR. If you can hear the compression, it's already too much, back it down. If you can see it's moving with the groove of the song, also it's already too much. The goal is to level some random peaks that you can't hear because our ears can't detect it, that's why compressor is invented.

6) go to the DYNAMIC RESONANCE CONTROLLER section and turn it on.
- there are 4 of them -> A,B,C are general resonance tamer that react where you set it, while the D is a wideband compressor that compress the whole track when the the signal at the selection crossed the threshold.
- goal is to fix! you don't have to use any of these at all if the mix already good enough
- keep the GR within the 2dB range

A - for De-essing job, i will set the range to 7000-9000Hz depending on the vocal and see if it helps the mix
B - for De-Harsh job, this is optional, for Hi-Hat and Cymbal excessive harsh if there's any, the range is around 10kHz-16kHz. Other frequency you might want to check between 2-4kHz.
C - for De-Boxy job, it's either around the evil 400Hz or if the low-end feels too big, 250Hz. I will only set this after the next stage.
D - this is the most interesting and dangerous band, it has so many usage but for me, I use it to add some nice pumping effect like all modern Pop songs. I will find the Bass Instrument range (it can be anywhere from 250-800Hz) using the slider and let the track pump with it. 1dB GR is enough, you go more, things will get weird. Experiment but be moderate with it.

7) move on to the heart of the plugin, the sections that will get you the character of the plugin or maybe close to Josh's sound. DYNAMIC EQ, EQ, MID BUMP & DYNAMIC BALANCE.
- I like to dial them up together and treat it like a one big tone control section

DYNAMIC EQ
- there are 4 Mode to choose from, A to D which all is Josh's go-to settings on his dynamic EQ plugins.
- think of it like a sensitivity tilt from A which focuses on controlling the Low-end the most to D that leaves the Low-end alone, if it makes any sense.
- D is always the better choice for me since I don't want it to mess up with my low end.
- pay attention to the amount of gain reduction on the display, keep it below 2dB, if you need more, the mix is problematic.

EQ
- It's a collection of 4 of his go-to EQ style/curves for every possible situation during his mixing. The curve will be shown on the display at the center of the plugin when you hover the mouse on the Gain slider with the module turned on.
- based on Josh's elysia museq settings.
- together with the DYNAMIC EQ it will get you closer to Josh's sound, tonal-balance wise, well, that's the whole idea.
The styles, how I see it :
1 - balanced, half of the time it just work but not everytime.
2 - if the mix feels too open, too airy, this will pull it back a bit
3 - add clarity, for me, this one works best with the D selection on the DYNAMIC EQ
4 - add brightness, if the mix is too dark
- adjust the amount of Gain with the amount of Compress on the DYNAMIC EQ module and turn on the MID BUMP
- find a nice balance between them.
- MID BUMP has some complex texture, saturation and stuff that programmed to push the mid up, as per Josh's suggestion try to get it to work, but sometimes the mix is just better without it, don't force it. Me, I force it, lol.

DYNAMIC BALANCE
- basically a leveling digital compressor, transparent enough it could be Opto style, or the traditional Waves Renaissance compressor, use it to add final polish. You'd always want to stay with A because B is the same thing but higher ratio. I suggest to always use turn it on and let it do its thing, it adds a nice polish to the sound and keep everything together especially when the MID BUMP is turned on.

8) FILTER, OUTPUT and DRY/WET
- the Output gain slider works 100% like the Input where on mouse hover you'll get Suggested Level on the display but different from the Input it's not important at all, you set how loud you want but always a good idea to level match.
- me personally, this is where I revisit the 16kHz High Cut filter I've set earlier. I will compare with the filter on 16kHz to 20kHz and see if added fidelity hurts the mix or the dynamics, does it improves the mix. I'll listen to my reference track to see where I am on the track balance, will adjust the filter accordingly plus some other minor tweak to make sure I'm not too much on the bright or dark side of it.
- DRY/WET if you have to.

9) SONGS MIXED BY JOSH GUDWIN
- here is a Spotify playlist of songs mixed by Josh Gudwin for reference. : Spotify Playlist
- sorted by release date, the newest releases on top.
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Love this and not to be selfish but can we get another one from you when you have some spare time? Or any links to any good guides like this @anyone reading? Guides like this make it easier to wrap my head around these plugins

Zoundzy · Oct 9, 2024

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Gyorgy Ligeti · Dec 26, 2023

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Did somebody piss off R2R. It's rather still.
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No, there is no team in warez history that has ever received the love and support that R2R receives, also because no team has ever been as great and consistent as R2R. Christmas and NYE were once big celebrations, but today in modern times R2R releases the best throughout the year, so don't expect much during the holidays. And if you notice, great softwares have been released this year. Of what remains, everything is prohibitive. We have to be realistic, White Box and Metafortress at their maximum strength are too big for any team, so it's better to enjoy our holidays without any expectations.

Zoundzy · Oct 9, 2024

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kargozarmj · Dec 26, 2023

Gyorgy Ligeti said: ↑

No, there is no team in warez history that has ever received the love and support that R2R receives, also because no team has ever been as great and consistent as R2R. Christmas and NYE were once big celebrations, but today in modern times R2R releases the best throughout the year, so don't expect much during the holidays. And if you notice, great softwares have been released this year. Of what remains, everything is prohibitive. We have to be realistic, White Box and Metafortress at their maximum strength are too big for any team, so it's better to enjoy our holidays without any expectations.
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I guess he was talking about the rest of the acustica stuff.

saccamano · Dec 26, 2023

Gyorgy Ligeti said: ↑

We have to be realistic, White Box and Metafortress at their maximum strength are too big for any team, so it's better to enjoy our holidays without any expectations.
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With all that has transpired there are still those that apparently doubt the immense powers of the witches...

Zoundzy · Oct 9, 2024

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saccamano · Dec 26, 2023

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I don't
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Me either

Gyorgy Ligeti · Dec 26, 2023

saccamano said: ↑

With all that has transpired there are still those that apparently doubt the immense powers of the witches...
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Never had any doubts, and their story speaks for itself. But even a little "healthy realism" doesn't hurt hahaha...
Happy to prove me wrong, but those protections are scary. Truly scary.

saccamano · Dec 26, 2023

If there's anyone here that has had success with installing the newer R2R Nebula 4.5 release alongside the R2R AA framework can you please step-by-step how you did it?

Boreios · Jun 4, 2024

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Zoundzy · Oct 9, 2024

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Boreios · Jun 4, 2024

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patatern · Dec 31, 2023

am I missing something or became fool...?

on PINK4 preamps the "AA non official site" reports that should be 9 pieces, maybe I am opening the wrong plugin or something?

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clone · Dec 30, 2023

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am I missing something
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Do you have all the manuals? And does this below even make any sense?

Preamp 8 - Harmonic Distortion

NOTE: All 8 preamps (plus the ninth one derived from a vintage console as described in the previous chapter) are also included in PINK4 1650 (PINK4EQ) in the BANK named CUSTOM, in this case the nine preamps are named CUST 1 through CUST 9.

The 215 standalone Pink4 PRE module includes 8 preamps. The first 4 of these are coming from Pink1 and they have been im- proved to match our Core 15 standards. In addition there are 4 new preamps that were specifically sampled for the release of the previous Pink3.

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