Putin says rap music should be state guided

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  1. Riot7

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    This is from a recent Politico article. This is what fascism looks like in a 21st century semi-open country.

    ...The rapper isn’t the only one to have fallen foul of Russian authorities. For months, police officers have been breaking up dozens of concerts, often violently, from Siberia to western Russia.

    Raids have involved officers from the FSB security service, the successor to the KGB, as well as the interior ministry’s anti-extremism unit, commonly known as Centre E. The day before Husky’s arrest in Krasnodar, Centre E officers allegedly forced club owners in Rostov-on-Don, near Russia’s border with Ukraine, to pull the plug on his performance by threatening to plant drugs on the premises.

    ...Last week, Vitaly Khelnitsky, a senior police official, told a parliamentary roundtable discussion there should be lengthy bans for musicians whose music promotes “violence, sex and the use of narcotics.” Cancelling concerts and blocking offending music videos online was a means to ensure "the preservation in our country of the moral and spiritual conditions for the education of young people,” he claimed.


    Russia is ruled by an authoritarian regime with ultra-conservative tendencies. Counter culture movements, any western influences - as well as free press - is deemed dangerous as they pose an existential threat to the powers that be. The state has slowly taken de facto control of media and they harass and threaten any critics of the regime.

    Don't get confused: the state always gives out plausible-deniability excuses for it's actions. "We are just trying to protect minors from drugs here". "These protests were illegal and violent". "The opposition leader is a white collar criminal". But when you look closer, you will find that the people and organizations they target just happen to be critics of the authoritarian state. It is always ultimately about control, suppression and the long term survival of the kleptocrat regime.
     
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  2. wasgedn

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    fascism is one allmighty leader state system...its not even bout left and right...just 1 leader at the top allmighty
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    this is capital fascism sort of but this is also wrong....i would say we need new word for such puppet shizl
     
  3. Alex Philipp

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    If you guys believe that stupid fake news, that means system work. As native russian and looks like the only person who watched that interview, I want to say that he never say that words. He told about popularization drugs in modern music and this shouldnt be supported. Bud CNN or whatever who writes novels for that fakes desided that context doesnt matter.
     
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  5. Talmi

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    It would be an excellent idea indeed to regulate and keep the advertising industry checked by not airing - on any media, wether radio, tv and internet obvl - I don't know, more than 5 minutes of ad per hour.
    And counting every shit pop artist that just advertise product in that time (from Rihana to Taylor Swift, or advertising crap like Maroon 5 or Jonas Blue) in it.
    It shouldn't be allowed indeed to let big corporations intoxicate young people minds with such poisonous consumerism propaganda.
    Not sure if Trump, Poutin and Kim-Yong Un and all the leaders of the free world will get right on that.

    Gotta keep the opium rolling for the people...Best way to keep them in check. Shit music, reality tv and spectacle sports practice by brainless millionaires....
     
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  6. Config

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    thats it..very good comment
    ..and this leads to the known modern society diseases
     
  9. wasgedn

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    so now we kno that you have no own opinion...media generated
    and later this kind of level screaming war too but only know arguments which are laid in his head and mouth
     
  10. wasgedn

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    in healthy society no regulation is needed cause healthy society is able to sort that all out but we have no healthy societys anymore no where..japanese(not city)maybe but in few decades bla

    or better the healthy part of societys has become very tiny

    i never forget maidan polarization wtf...how easy a society is divided these days...
     
  11. Talmi

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    Watch what's happening in France right now with the Gilets Jaunes protest. Higher classes are close to ask for an american intervention, drones strikes and all....I'm barely joking.
    But you carry a romantic view of societies. They've always been highly divided. In France, a protest like today, 75 or 100 years ago ?
    A blood bath for the lower class like it was systematicaly the case back then. I can give a hundred example. Any strike was equal to several workers death, deportation into force labors in the colonies, etc. And those were in the already "republicans" days. One of the worst regarding that was for example Clemenceau. The winner of first world war. A man of order who loved nothing but to punish the working class. Hundred of deads under his hand. For fucking strikes.
    20 years before that ? The commune de Paris. 25 000 deads among the angry working classes of Paris. Almost as much deported. And that was also under a "republican" governement (fucker Adolphe Thiers, may he burn in hell for eternity).
    Societies political division are merely a reflexion of their material division. There are heavy interests at stake all the time, it's about who will impose their views. It's about power.
     
  12. Herr Tony

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    State guided?,
    didn't he say nuked from the face of earth?
    do we have a higher bidder?
    :wink:
     
  13. tommyzai

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    Why only rap music? I think Putin needs to be state controlled. Actually, the more you try to censor and ban, the more exciting it is to be part of that forbidden thing. I thought rap was on the steady decline, anyway. It's more of a vocal element of R&B lately, I think. Censor me, please. Martyr me, later. :)
     
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    We will NEVER forget and NEVER forgive what Put(a)in did to innocent civilians on MH17 flight.
    Never....
    Stop calling people "media generated" if they have their own opinion.
    The prove against Russia does not lie.
    There are even video recordings and intercepted phone calls of high rank Russia people about the plane shooting MH17.
    It's not story making, all the evidence does not lie.
     
  15. Talmi

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    That's the thing though.
    No one forgets anything.
    Personaly I will never forget the millions killed by american missiles in the middle east. Or the millions killed by the nazis.
    I do remember the millions that died in the red army against german troops. That don't cancel the other millions that died in the goulag.
    So to each their own. History is a b;;ch. No one is an angel and the worst aren't always the ones that cnn points fingers at.
    History isn't moral, neither are nations.
     
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    He's only pushing for this so he can be the world's greatest MC. His last hit was in the 90's so I guess this is an attempt to regain top hip hop status. JayZ is working on a diss track about it.
     
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    I'm all for it honestly. Hiphop has become idiotic. I mean, I've always loved it, and I still live and breathe for it, but man there is a lot of bad shit out there lol.
    Ban talking about how many sportscars they've got, how many women they've slept with, how much cash they got and blaaaaah blaaaah blah. And while they're at it, ban the 808. The whole damn kit. It's a horrible machine and it sounds like a fucking carpet-beater.
     
  18. Nana Banana

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    Herr Tony, are you by chance related to Herr Durr? :wink:
     
  19. wasgedn

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    lol...thats was not putin...stop watching dumb tv
    one of the reason it got shot was to bring war , to bring shell and monsanto in position , for ripping off and destroy land big time
    and you proved my point
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    you dont kno nothing bout politix and history in the end
     
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  20. wasgedn

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    for sure :deep_facepalm:
    its so obvious
     
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