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Yeah absolutely. I never claimed any of them were anywhere close to like Open AI or large language models.

I just enjoy that people unconsciously fully support AI products until they feel threatened and then they flip.

Music generation by AI is the least of my worries. If AI can make music that much better than me, then I need to get better. Or I can make better music using AI tools (like we already have been for years).

 

Big problem we found was: If HR uses (hosted) AI to pull text out of documents, let's say employee contracts. Anyone can then ask the same bot "how much does <employee> earn". HR has since stopped using generative AI

 

This is what is known as a variable focus view with a broader scope, therefore the correct one! Nobody disagrees that AI can facilitate/speed up certain phases of music creation/production. The problem goes deeper than the O.P. reported:

http://audiosex.pro/posts/756302/

http://audiosex.pro/posts/761556/

 

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Hahaha that's pretty funny.

Now that Reddit is selling user information to AI language model companies, you'll soon be able to sneakily ask AI how big your coworkers dong is.

 

In at least one area of audio, AI will completely take over and entirely displace humans. It's in the restoration and remastering of old analog recordings. With the potential for complete separation of instruments, recognition of each, and restoration of nearly all of their sound characteristics, as well as technology that can recover lost data and effectively recognize and remove artifacts, all previous attempts in this field will be entirely surpassed.
In some areas of audio processing, AI can not only replace humans but is also capable of far surpassing them.

 

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yea, and apart from all that, now imagine doing something for living, actually earning money, I know it's hard to believe, but that's what many people seem worried as they work somewhere within (music) business, and now AI seriously questions their job usefulness/effectivity

 

That's what inspired this post.

Udio is a scam in my opinion.

It took my Google account information and failed to generate a song for me (spinning wheel for 8 hours, then said no data)

That was my one free attempt. I disconnected my Google Account from Udio and I'm still signed in on the Udio website. There's no option to sign out.

No contact information for account problems at Udio. No way to delete user data unless you live it like 3 US states.

They took my data and didn't give me anything.

Edit: apparently what I signed up for (udio.ai) is not Udio.com. Both of them claim to do the same thing but Udioai.ai is super suspicious even though it will create AI lyrics to songs.

Luckily I used a fake Google account with fake info so they don't get any real data

 

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Yup, and if I repaired typewriters for a living I'd be really upset about computers being invented.

Luckily music piracy hasn't impacted the lives of musicians much.

Or record labels and streaming services taking about 90-95% of money from artists.

Naa, shitty AI music generators are the main concern. Just imagine that.

Technology literally constantly alters the value of jobs.

 

I guess AI is good for non skilled and lazy people - you know... people who wants a fast result without putting any effort into anything/don't want to learn anything but want to appear as if they actually master something!

AI can potentially put a lot of people out of work because greedy companies think real creativity is possible without a human being behind it... it's completely hopeless and could be one of the most costly inventions of the last hundred years.

I couldn't care less! I am so old that the problem probably does not affect me, but I am seriously worried about future generations and how their creativity will be worsened and used in society in the future.

It's a bit like doping in sport - only worse.

 

Yes my OP was not about AI technology as a whole. Rather specifically AI music generation.

 

That's a very reasonable take on it.

I don't think humanity as a whole will ever lose the desire to create art, learn instruments, play sports, etc.

Having a career in those things will be a much different experience.

Although pre AI stuff, over the past 10-20 years big business having a stranglehold over the music and movie industry have basically made it so that it's a million times as challenging to make a living as an independent artist. Those companies don't care about creativity, just profit margins.

Yet people still create and enjoy it!

 

So, to directly answer your question: —no, my life was not and has not been ruined by AI.
But I know young composers who are looking for a place to work in the industry as there was before, but are finding less space because of it.
And it will get much worse.

 

Your post is amazing.

 

"difference" with AI is, the evolution is much faster and more uncertain/risky,

typewriter repair shop haven't become completely obsolete within year,
music piracy boom wasn't particularly fast and never really skyrocketed,
labels are somewhat declining and artists are diversifying income by playing gigs, merch etc...

shitty AI music generators aren't really problem, it's shitty consumers who are fine with such content,
industry revolution was a process that took few decades, throughout few generations - I don't think AI adoption will be that slow

 

True. And now that anyone can use Kontakt and Spitfire libraries and make orchestral music at the same level as famous film composers, there are 500k people competing for the same work that used to have 2k people competing for it.

Guess we should just get mad at technology as a whole if it's about limiting work opportunities.

 

I mean that's true for sure.

But then you have to make art and music FOR ARTISTS and we all know they're the poorest fucks around

The general masses will eat their Taylor Swift slop by the bucket and she'll take in millions.

To be fair tho I did mention live performances (which is where people like Taylor Swift make most of their money anyways) and I believe AI will not quickly replace that.

Currently the oversaturation of the music production market as a whole has led to its downfall in value. Maybe soon AI will surpass that.

 

Absolutely! Could not agree more.

I just used a new online AI stem splitting software to isolate a piano part in a busy track and it was the best separation I had ever heard! Made it so easy to learn the part.

 

Care to share the name of the software you're talking about?

 

Look, there is some coherence in your comment, but I don't see a complete correspondence between one thing and another. When better quality samplers arrived on the market, everyone saw only the positive side of the event, while many orchestras linked to multimedia production saw a decrease in demand. What's the way out? orchestral recordings at more affordable prices. Has this become a current practice? no! Were there any developments because of this? For sure! And so on...
You mention the increase in the number of composers competing for the same spot. Yes, this is a fact that arises not only due to access to sample libraries, but also due to population growth and the fact that, historically, music is the "poor man" in the multimedia environment.
What I mean is that there are multiple variables interfering in the system (not just technology, even though it's a major aggravating factor!).