I did a lot of researching and I came to this conclusion that this might be my choice,however before I pull the plug and buy this HP, I like to get your Thoughts/SPECS In Questions..Give Me a Yay Or Nay On This HP..And a Small Sample Of Your Overall Thoughts..Or Other Computer recommendations...Thanks Gents..

HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop Core i5-9400F, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB GDDR6, 32GB RAM, 512GB SSD+2TB SSHD, Hexa-Core up to 4.10 GHz, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, DVD-RW, Win 10..
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082JRY52M/ref=psdc_13896591011_t2_B083K8GGH5?th=1

 

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You can do better. For $200 less, maybe.

Do you want a system for gaming &, or, do you want a strong production system?

 

For a strong production system..Recommendations?

 

Was curious about parting a system together on pcpartpciker.com or, newegg.com...

I you want a pre-made system with manufactures warranty, take a look at mid-level workstations in your price range.

HP, Lenovo or Dell.

My home system is the last year Lenovo made the S30:
Xeon E5-1620 V2
32g ram
WiFi
512GB 2.5" SSD
1TB 3.5" 7200RPM HD
2TB 3.5" 7200RPM HD
650W PSU
Multi card reader
USB 2
USB 3 Type A
NVidia K600 Quadro

Able to run any DAW with large large projects easily. Never have to think about bouncing/rendering tracks.
A more modern version Like a P500 series should offer at least a 30% improvement.

Actually looking at making an AMD X570 based system with Thunderbolt once the 4000 series CPUs are released. Would like to do at least 8 cores but prefer 16. a 3950X at $600 would be great.

 

do not buy this for music production. That motherboard has no thunderbolt header which makes it a bad choice for a audio production pc. Very important to pick tried and tested hardware parts for an audio production pc. There are thousands of things that can cause issues on a pre-build pc based on a "unknown" motherboard. Could cause you nightmare regarding drivers and latency. People that only game will never notice, the problems will only appear in a audio production environment.
Go to this thread:
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/mus...y-we-build-our-studio-pc-quot-thread-342.html

Say how much money you will spend and somebody would put together a good pc for audio production. If you don't wanna build it yourself there is always a local shop or somebody you know that can do it. As a starting point begin with one of these CPU's:
If AMD: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
If Intel: Intel Core i9-9900K
You should be able to build a good audio production pc that you can trust for many years for around: $1500. Going cheaper than that is not advisable

 

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Hey Guys Thx For The Recommendations,However I'm Not PC Builder Just Looking For Something Thats Already Pre-Build.
quadcore64,Daskeladden..I Like Your system specs..Very Impressive..Can You Guys Provide Any Links Pre-Build Computers That Are Similar Your System Specs.. Much Appreciated..Rob

 

If you go the route of a gaming PC you'll be paying mostly for the GPU. For DSP what matters is a robust processor and for virtual instruments what matters is RAM. For a true production workstation you'll need both. Any Xeon or i9 will be plenty of juice processor-wise. You'll also probably want at least 32GB of RAM, especially if you're planning on doing any kind of orchestral or post-production work that involves a lot of sample libraries. You'll also want plenty of connectivity, and make sure you get something that is Thunderbolt 3 compatible. All of that shouldn't be too expensive as long as you're fine with skimping on the video card.

 

Gaming PCs are a meme. Get a Mac and make music.

 

I suppose that if OP decided to post in PC subforum, there must be a reason.

 

A friend of mine has bought Dell workstation twice, and got serious problems with the motherboard. At the first case, it was still under warranty but he could not live/work without his pc for weeks that would mean sending it to repair, tried to find some temporary solution, the issues periodically appeared later, when it became so unusable he was compelled to buy another computer. It was Dell again that worked until the warranty lasted, then started to have issues with the motherboard. Dell offered to send him a technician for about 30-40% of what the pc had costed him. Ridiculous. This would be the bill only for the Dell guy go to his home, not for the repair cost. He lives in the center part of a capital, not in the desert.
My suggestion is: Never buy workstations from Dell!

 

You can have your pc build here:
https://www.cclonline.com/basket/

Intel Core i9 9900K 3.6GHz 8 Core CPU
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x 16GB) 3000MHz DDR4
ASRock Z390 TAICHI Intel Socket 1151 Motherboard
Be Quiet Dark Rock Slim Air Tower CPU Cooler
MSI GeForce GTX 1660 ARMOR 6GB Graphics Card
Fractal Design Define R6 Black Mid Tower Case
Corsair RM650 650W Modular 80+ Gold PSU
Microsoft Windows 10 Home - 64-Bit DVD (OEM)
3 Year Collect & Return warranty
Crucial P1 1TB M.2-2280 NVMe PCIe SSD
+

ASRock Thunderbolt 3 Add-in Card *Open Box*

 

Generall advices :
The PC is not bad (CPU is the only really pure thing in this system)(last gen ) Next gen will probably come middle of April https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-10900k-benchmark-specs

And the price of 980$ is just a ripoff for that
(if this the one you like wait till April becaus the price will fall with the new gen)

Look how powerfully the CPU is you looking for
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
If it's under 15,000 I would think twice before buying it

And don't trust this Dude Perfect ref stuff.

But if you really want a proper DAW-PC look for AMD Ryzen 5/7 3xxx
Build it your self (learn it on Youtube it´s relatively easy ) or let it build for you . (maybe ask someone you know or on Craigslist or something (I took $30 for a build as a ref point) )



What I would build today for less than 1000$

[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gQBDn7)


**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9nm323/amd-ryzen-5-3600-36-thz-6-core-processor-100-100000031box) | $174.99 @ B&H (Powerfull CPU with low TDP)

**CPU Cooler** | [Rosewill ROCC-16002 27.95 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/psw7YJ/rosewill-rocc-16002-2795-cfm-cpu-cooler-rocc-16002) | $15.99 @ Newegg (still quite with 23 dbA)

**Motherboard** | [MSI X570-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QZLwrH/msi-x570-a-pro-atx-am4-motherboard-x570-a-pro) | $129.99 @ Newegg (got nearly everything a thunderbolt is missing but can added with a simple PCe card
and is only needed if you´ll use a thunderbolt device )

**Memory** | [Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4p...gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-2400-memory-msl4u240hf16gx2) | $119.99 @ Amazon (more than enoght to power nearly every big libary of Samples)

**Storage** | [Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4ZFf7/samsung-970-evo-500gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-mz-v7e500bw) | $87.99 @ Amazon ( Sadly SSD are expensive these days )

**Storage** | [Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jp2rxr/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd40ezrz) | $87.99 @ Amazon (good price for Samples maybe can be replaced with a SSD when the prices are falling again )

**Video Card** | [EVGA GeForce GT 1030 2 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mVqbt6/evga-geforce-gt-1030-2gb-video-card-02g-p4-6338-kr) | $85.12 @ Amazon (quite because of passive cooling but not good for gaming)

**Case** | [DIYPC Zondda ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cpgPxr/diypc-case-zonddao) | $44.86 @ Newegg
(4 bay slots are always nice to have)

**Power Supply** | [Corsair CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q7...onze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020120-na) | $38.98 @ Newegg (simple does it´s job)

**Operating System** | [Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wtgPxr/microsoft-os-kw900140) | $99.99 @ B&H (can replaced by a key from ebay for 10$ downside on that it's a key for the PC only
if you'll change components the Key can get erased (happend only once in my life and I build a lot of PC´s) )

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Microsoft-W...403992&hash=item547fefd7cb:g:bQ4AAOSw6btXRblr



| **Total** | ** $885.89** (With a Key from ebay - ca. $ 90) = $ 795,89 (for nearly double CPU power and similar specs to the HP) (without an in this case useless GPU)
| Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2020-02-27 06:58 EST-0500 |

 

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Prebuilds from top brand names always come with a price premium but most times also include a good warranty. In the case that you don't trust anyone with a custom build and have to go for a pre-built comp @quadcore64 is actually right in his suggestion, you should be looking for a low or mid tier workstation comp. The difference with workstation comps is they are built with reliability being their top priority, whereas gaming comps are built with gaming performance in mind, ignoring for the most part some secondary but basic aspects like for instance, noise levels.
My take and personal trip with comp builds ended many years ago to this: Down the road you will find out that even with pre-builds you will need to customize. Add a hdd or ssd or change an annoyingly noisy fan, install more ram etc. Calling for professional help for these mundane tasks is a pain in the butt and your pocket. Sooner or later at some point, if you work with desktop comps you will have to get your hands "dirty", so it should be better to watch/read some tutorials on how to perform these upgrades yourself in the future.
One thing to keep in mind is, pre-built brand name comps may come with proprietary, non-standard pc components, which might be anything from a motherboard to a psu and anything else in between. In the case of future malfunction this makes it harder to change those particular components because the replacement has to be the exact same part.
If i was you, i'd look for someone who does custom pc builds in my area and go with them. It is always better to have someone physically near you that you can rely upon when things go sideways. For instance if you are in the US, Microcenter is fine for a custom build.
Cheers

 

Great observation. So what's the next thing you 'll tell us... Dave Mustaine rules ?

 

Although I love me some macs and own a mac, I made a promise to myself to never buy a new Mac ever again. Too damn expensive for what they are. PC are the way to go now a days as you won't need to be stuck in an ecosystem and have more options and customize. Also you can hackintosh like I did on a PC laptop I bought used.

 

in general, HP/DELL/Lenovo prebuilt computers have major problems with network interfaces causing severe DPC latency spikes,
if you plan to disable internal ethernet and WiFi, it will work fine though,
also keep in mind BIOS is mediocre at best, motherboard form factor, power supply and cables are special and can't be easily replaced/upgraded by regular components you can buy in store

 

computers are easy to build. i built the one that i am using right now six years ago. i use it every day and it has never had a single problem. there are only a few steps where you need to be extra careful - like inserting the cpu on the motherboard and attaching the cooler to the cpu. everything else is pretty much a snap. there are plenty of good youtube videos that can walk you through the process.

 

Having been the owner of a ThinkPad & currently the owner of a 6 year old Lenovo Workstation, I can say that the BIOS & network are fine. The BIOS offers changes to setting where it makes sense. Including "Custom Turbo".

Would not hesitate to buy either a Dell Precision or HP Z series workstation at the right price.
Reputable refurbished previous or current gen with up-to-date features & warranty is fine.

 

Okay realitybytez I might give it a Go..I type in Youtube (how to build your own custom computer) and came up with this https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+build+your+own+custom+computer Although sounds good from these YT authors, so much to choose from, however realitybytez do you have a Youtube author that you would Recommend and have use in the past to help you build your computers? Thx Rob

 

Totally off topic, but..Tzzsmk. your avatar, shouldn't that 3.5 be in mono