First of all, I think it's great that they're willing to support manufacturers and
then also exchange and make their products available to the R2R team.

The downsid e, however, is that they might drive a company or a one-person
business completely into bankruptcy or make it unemployed.

If you have benefited from R2R, then please follow R2R's general call to action: "Support manufacturers you like,
because only when manufacturers earn enough money will there be new products, innovations, and updates."

 

ANY release group depends upon it's suppliers

In a lot of cases, but not all, this would mean not only a copy of the software but
a working license or serial number.

A supplier would have to legit purchase the software themselves and pass that
with their license or serial number.

Going back even 10 years, more people were happy to supply but now a days
most are not and just want to take take take.

They maybe Witches but they can not cast spells and magically make it all appear.

Someone may ask "why don't the Witches buy the software themselves"?
The answer to that is simple, they do not make any money from what they do
and that is not what the audio warez scene is about.
So why should they fund the scene out of their money?

Certainly the newer visitors to the scene, who do not know its history, need to
remember that Witches have lives, magical and mysterious, they owe us nothing
and we owe them everything.

That is al;l that there is to it - end of story.

 

Yes, spot on.

I feel that the small one or two person software developers should be off limits.

A good example of that is The Crow Hill Company.
That is a very small company that is essentially "a one man operation".

They are no where near close to making a profit and if they go under because
they get cracked, that would destroy the company before it has even got going.

 

You're making a big assumption there. There are more people now, but I don't see any evidence that supply is low.

 

Sure it is.

And yeah i'm Sure on one Hand it Hurts the small developers more than the bigger ones. On the Other hand who can Tell that the crack is to blame? We dont know how many people would have bought it If No crack existed.

But i really didn't want to Take this to off-topic discussions. All i wanted to say was that we should Not Always believe that the Most requested stuff that everyone wants to have has been supplied anyway.

And i think the Most demanded ones, for The Most part are Not the small one Person Businesses.

We had that discussion so many Times and you can argue About it for days whether it Hurts the companies or not. But If someone ain't willing to buy you're not Losing him as a customer due to a crack. He's gonna use it because it's available for free to him but that Doesn't mean he's gonna pay for it If it's Not available. Most people don't stumble upon k'd Software, they intentionally search for it. Either because they simply Just can't afford it or they Just don't wanna buy it for whatever reason (for example the layers of protection that Always hurt the playing customer in Terms of Performance, demanded space...). I wouldnt See them as Potential customers you as a company lost due to k'ed Software.
Some companies are shit and don't deserve to be supported, Others do deserve it.
But Look around here, how many people say they fell in Love with a k'ed Plugin and then bought them legit? And now Put them next to the ones that would have bought Software but Just decided not to Just because the k'ed Version was available. Those are the only ones that really hurt the companies. Real lost customers. And i think they are only a few. Not even Worth the Money they spent on protection to try to avoid that.
But that's Just My Point of View.

Anyways Like i Said i didnt wanna Go Off topic. I Just wanted to say we need to be aware that we could potentially See way more goodies and big Gongs If we contributed more.

That's all

 

And how do you know there's enough supply? I'll give one evidence: lately R2R released Uhbik 2 and reading the NFO they mentioned once again (god knows how many times they mentioned that), they mentioned about Filterscape not been supplied in order to be unlocked, so the supply is low, as it was low in Acustica Audio case which made R2R unlock trial versions instead of full releases...

 

In real life, you only buy software you like or that offers added value. Some people first check online to see if the desired software is available for free; if they can't find it, they buy it. Others buy it because it's legal and they don't want to break the law... and so on.

The World Wide Web offers great opportunities for everyone, but at the same time, there's a lot of fraud. Without the internet, the market for software manufacturers would be much smaller. Basically, we're saying the same thing. Besides, nobody really knows what users actually do on their home PCs. Even with Team R2R, all we know is what's in the NFO files.

 

Well, that means there was a shortage of Filterscape, it doesnt indicate a general shortage. And, for sure, there were many, many offers of Acustica stuff made. No shortage there. So on that side of things we can only assume a different reason.

 

Talking about supply here, i want to ask a mod, is it possible to supply UAD Spark if subscription still active? And in this case what should be supplied? Both logins and passwords of UA account and iLok account? (Since there's no installer because it uses UA Connect to download directly from the cloud) and if has been supplied before or not ?

 

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