Official 2025 Gong Thread

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by PulseWave, Sep 21, 2025.

  1. tori

    tori Platinum Record

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    That would be actually really funny xD I can play a few ravel pieces, but only the "easiest" ones xD
     
  2. clone

    clone Audiosexual

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    Compared to the one that showed up, this thing is a joke.

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  3. baneblast

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    this is the dreammm!! :wink:
     
  4. Riddim Machine

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    Sometimes it's hard for some people to understand that. People got taste, and are aiming for different things. I don't really care if UAD has the most similar sound of x hardware. A hardware user would laugh on the face of those who say that the endorsed plugins are better. IMO Acustica Amber is the best sounding Avalon emulation hands down, while Kazrog and UAD has the endorsed version. While we still don't have cracked UAD, we got Kazrog. And i don't see anyone saying that Kazrog's Avalon is just the best because it's endorsed. In fact, i saw the opposite. A lot of people complained about the new Avalon stuff from Kazrog. Waves is probably used as much as UAD by pros but we constantly see rage coments on this forum about how Waves plugins suck. Whats the main difference between Waves, Acustica, Kazrog and UAD? Tip: one of those guys is not cracked yet ;)
     
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  5. DontKnowJack

    DontKnowJack Platinum Record

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    Is Acustica actually cracked though? Most of those releases were demo/trial versions.
     
  6. shinyzen

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    The endorsed thing is for sure funny. An official endorsement could come from a variety of reasons.

    1. The plugin dev knows personally the guy who made the hardware.
    2. Plugin dev "A" has more sales than plugin dev "B" and can show the HW guy the numbers
    3. They just don't gaf, first person to present them with a halfway decent option, go for it.
    4 Unaware of another option

    etc etc.

    The whole "but UAD made the original hardware, so they know what they are doing" thing is absurd as well. Yeah, they made the hardware, but just because they made the hardware 50 years ago does not mean their plugin developers have the best technique for component modeling or plugin design etc.
     
  7. clone

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    You can check this, but I think you are trying to be funny here. :)

    • The “UA Avalon VT‑737” is the plugin emulation (by Universal Audio) of the original VT‑737SP hardware. The “Kazrog Avalon VT‑747SP” is a plugin emulation of the VT‑747SP hardware.
    • The hardware units themselves — the VT‑737SP vs VT‑747SP — are different in their architecture, purpose, and signal‑path (mono mic pre vs stereo bus compressor/EQ).
    Therefore, they are not emulating the same hardware unit; they are two different hardware units (and thus two different digital models).

    Could this be why you never hear one being compared to the other? They were each given different models that they could emulate. I actually like that, if the case.

    What the VT-737SP is:
    It is a mono tube‑channel strip: mic/instrument/line preamp + optical compressor + four‑band sweep EQ.
    From the official spec: “The VT‑737SP combines a transformer‑coupled, dual vacuum tube preamplifier with a tube opto‑compressor and a high‑voltage, discrete Class A four‑band parametric equalizer.”
    Its typical usage: mic pre for vocals/instruments, tracking front‑end in high‑end studios.
    Notably: It includes preamp stage (mic/DI) + compression + EQ all in one mono unit.
    What the VT‑747 is
    The VT‑747SP is a stereo unit designed mainly as a line‑level stereo compressor + passive drawer equaliser (a “program equaliser”) rather than a mic preamp + tracking channel strip.
    From the manual: “The VT‑747SP combines a stereo tube/discrete Class A opto‑compressor with a musical six‑band programme equalizer … Ideal for high performance DAW input signal conditioning, stereo buss compression/EQ, stereo keyboards and analog mastering applications.”
    It also offers the “TSP (Tube Signal Path)” where you can choose between vacuum‑tube tone or discrete transistor path.


    it's not wild to think something about that. but it is pretty ballsy to say that one is better than the other when you don't know they aren't the same unit. This is what I mean when I say "people repeating stuff other people told them". You haven't checked yourself, even to consider checking them side-by-side; but we will see someone else repeat this same thing next week as it is some kind of fact.
     
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