NI Maschine Standalone... FINALLY!!!

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  1. aymat

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    Ive been a Maschine user for years so this has been a long time coming. I LOVE the Maschine workflow even with its limitations but I'm excited that they have been addressing a lot of those limitations with software updates regularly and seem to be committed in continuing to do so.

    This, however, changes everything. Having the option to be able to work both in the box and out adds so much more flexibility. And the fact that it already comes bundled with the Maschine library, expansions and NI synths is phenomenal.

    The only thing Im not feeling is the price. Goddamn. I have the MK3 and the build quality on it is not exactly stellar. The encoders lost their tension less than a month after I bought but still work. I'm definitely going to wait until I see full reviews but as far as I can tell this thing is going to be a beast.
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    Product Description



    Native Instruments Maschine+ is an immersive, standalone groovebox for production and performance. It offers a fast, intuitive workflow for control over sampling, synthesis, and effects, plus premium sounds from Native Instruments.

    FEATURES:
    • Immersive standalone workflow for creating beats and melodies, sampling, arranging music, and performing on stage or in the studio
    • Includes Maschine+ Selection with industry-leading instruments, sounds, and effects, plus renowned Maschine drum and bass synth plug-ins and effects
    • Quad-core CPU and 4 GB RAM for fast, seamless creation when it counts
    • Pro-grade, 44 kHz/32-bit audio interface with 2 x ¼” TRS line outputs, 2 x ¼” TRS line inputs, ¼” dynamic mic input, stereo headphone output, 1 x MIDI In, 1 x MIDI out; 1 x Footswitch, 2 x USB ports for MIDI controllers/external HDDs
    • Robust, anodized aluminum design for years on the road and in the studio
    • Iconic Maschine features and workflow including 16 velocity-sensitive pads, Maschine effects and plugins, swing, pad link, note repeat, step sequencer, and vintage sampler emulation
    • Use standalone or with a computer – integrate with your studio workflow, and unplug for DAW-less setups or live performances
    • WiFi and Link enabled for wirelessly installing and updating products, collaborating with others, and syncing with other gear
    HARDWARE SPECIFICATIONS:
    • Quad-core processor
    • 4GB dual channel DDR3L RAM
    • 32 GB internal eMMC flash storage (for OS and factory content)
    • 2x color displays (480 x 272)
    • 64GB SD card included
    • WiFi enabled
    INCLUDED SOFTWARE
    Maschine+ includes Maschine+ Selection, a curated package of instruments, effects, and Expansions chosen for use in both standalone and controller mode:

    Maschine FACTORY LIBRARY

    8GB library of high-quality sounds, drum kits, multi-sampled instruments, patterns, projects, and sliced loops, Bass Synth, and Drum Synths: 5 fully tweakable, automatable drum plug-ins.

    INSTRUMENTS:

    FM8, MASSIVE, MONARK, PRISM, REAKTOR Factory Selection R2, KONTAKT Factory Selection, RETRO MACHINES.

    EFFECTS:

    RAUM, PHASIS.

    EXPANSIONS:

    DEEP MATTER, LILAC GLARE, SOLAR BREEZE, TRUE SCHOOL, VELVET LOUNGE (Plus voucher for two additional Expansions).

    SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
    STANDALONE MODE:

    You can use Maschine+ without a computer, but you’ll need a wireless internet connection and your Native ID to get set up.

    CONTROLLER MODE:

    • macOS 10.14 or 10.15 (latest update), Intel Core i5, 4 GB RAM
    • Windows 10 (latest Service Pack, 64-bit only), Intel Core i5 or equivalent CPU, 4 GB RAM, USB 2.0 Port, 9 GB free disk space for Maschine software and Maschine Library, 24 GB free disk space for Maschine+ Selection.

    https://vintageking.com/native-instruments-maschine-plus
     
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  3. breadd

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    dm download link plz, also one for the r2r site
     
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    What?
     
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    And still a hardware serial.
     
  6. aymat

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    Im wondering if there will be some kind of upgrade discount. I own all the software it comes bundled with which I assume is why the markup is so high.

    Another thing Id like to know is if it can run 3rd party vsts. Thats not a deal breaker since I prefer working mostly with samples but would be nice to be able to load up some of my favorite plugins.

    One thing I like is that it comes with enough storage for all the existing Maschine expansions plus the additional usb slots for more storage. With a 4TB drive I would be petty much set.
     
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    I am not really feeling it, especially at this price point!?
    I would like to know if it has Disk-Streaming, what USB-interface(Speed Wise) it has and on what platform it runs on(ARM On Microsoft-Embedded Or Linux-Derivative Or Even x86)?!!
    Disk-Streaming is a big one, I mean, if you are forced to load it in to the RAM, especially with some Kontakt instances it going to fill up very quickly!
     
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    I like that it can work standalone, but if I understood it correctly it needs Internet to be able to work with it? That's completely stupid. Furthermore, 44.1kHz sampling only? Is that right? Also, mic preamp is probably not that great, to say the least. I'm also puzzled by 2.6A requirement for the adapter, but the ARM CPU it uses could be one of the really powerful ones. That could mean it could run a nice amount of VSTs, if it supports that, which would be really interesting.

    Still, my general impression is not that great, considering the price, but also not so underwhelmed as it may seem. You could buy a 2nd hand older AKAI MPC and use that instead. I'm sure it has better MIDI timing, easier to use, better hardware quality etc. and no need for Internet connection.

    I'd like to read the manual and see what it really offers. Everything you need to know is in the manual, always. :)
     
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  9. phumb-reh

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    First, I'm really liking the standalone aspect but for this price only 2 outputs? So basically you have to work all in within the box and you're then limited to the built in FX etc.

    So I like the idea but not the execution, and I'm saying this as a person who's big time into Maschine.
     
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    you need net to set up not use
     
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    rumoured Price is 1400$. I like NI´s Hardware but good luck with that with all the competition out there
     
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    Good, I just sold all my Maschine stuff just in time :) I like the idea, but it does not fit my workflow in the end.
     
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    https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/maschine/production-systems/maschine-plus/compare/

    Well that answers the vst question.... 3rd party vst use only in controller mode :/

    The more I look at the specs, the less enthusiastic I am about it. At that price I'm not sure theres enough of a difference from the MK3 to pull the trigger. If they offer some kind of upgrade or voucher for existing users, I'd consider it but as of right now Im not sure its worth the upgrade, much less the cost. With MPC One at half the price and features like a touch screen, I'd be more inclined to pull the trigger on that first.
     
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    It has no build in Battery ? Do the finally improve the quality of the shity pots ?
     
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    where we are at it , anyone ever compared the pots of a MPC with Maschine ? Are they better and keep the same resistance without any parameter jumps ?
     
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    noone ?
     
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    Nice but how much? I can't break the bank right now... I feel like this is gonna be very expensive.
     
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    1'300 eur uffffff
     
  21. Moogerfooger

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    I’m predicting this will bomb. Might get decent sales the first few months & holidays, but ultimately it’s fate will be similar to the OL Neko... 4gb ram.... lol
     
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