Yes I like his playing, but can we call him a "new bass player" ? I thought you put this title to share young new bass players...
Manring was born in 1960, he has been recording at least since '81 with Michael Hedges...

Anyway, I dont mind opening the thread subject to any really interesting bass player..

 

I would not want to sound rude, but we can find hundreds (if not thousands) of covers of this kind in Youtube...
But yes, she plays well.

 

The amount of robot Berklee jazz nut swinging around here is hilarious....

 

I know, but what really brought up my attention is how at her age she can play so effortlessly and putting on a smile, really groovy. Plus I could have fallen in love again.

 

Once again nothing to add or completely wrong.

Show me another singer / bass player similar to Jacob Collier's caliber?
Of course an ' ignored member ' like you would ' disagree ' to a Collier video.

 

If music is meant to communicate emotion to others, Jacob in my opinion doesn’t do it for me. His voice is pure, but lacks character and the human charm of individual imperfections. His negative harmonic approach is convoluted and easier to achieve the same sound by using other methods. It’s an opinion. We all have them. I’m just surprised by the amount of people not just here but throughout the world who have subscribed to institutionalized jazz harmonic and melodic methods implemented by the big schools who are simply in it for money.

 

I agree, but isn't it a beautiful thing that he is so deeply embedded and focused into the music that nothing phases him?

 

I agree that he is of an older generation but what he is playing is definitely "new".
If a 90 year old man suddenly appeared playing something that had never been done or heard before, while he is certainly old, what he created definitely is not.

 

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Just a perspective:
A musician that loves music for the pure sake of the Art will see what a person, ensemble, composition, song or style brings to the Art form itself.

If every musician had an identical opinion on what has soul, what does not, or what something is, we would all be clones and then yes, we would all be soulless.

Without knowing how someone got their skills without knowing every gig, trial and tribulation personally that artist went through, without being able to see inside the artist's heart and soul to see what truly drives them, I cannot see how labeling anyone as something is anything other than a personal perspective where the performance of music is concerned. Technical and execution performance analysis has nothing to do with enjoyment. I think it detracts from just enjoying it.
I can do it and will probably for many years to come, but I won't if I only want to simply listen to something.

For me and perhaps only for me, I can switch off the technical aspects because I am grateful that I learned to play by ear first and hear whatever style or skill it is for what it contributes to music.
Music is good or it is not. Someone can really play or they cannot. The feeling or soul or anything else is like the millions of social media posts ad nauseum - only an opinion.

Everyone on this earth has a soul. Just because someone cannot see, hear or feel their soul does not mean that it does not exist.

 

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Who's negative harmonic approach satisfies you ?
Just talkin' out yo ass again?

We really need a ' stupid ' rating for vindictive people like you.

Is there a reason why I'm the only lucky person to receive your ' disagree ' in this thread MR. Fooger?
Are you still embarrassed and bitter about something I had to correct you about?

Nothing to add or 100% wrong.
Back to ignore........

 

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I actually got what he meant I think? The problem with faceless, expressionless computer forums is nobody can see the real meaning in the written word, even with emoticons. I have put a wink on a post and been completely taken at face value not in jest... it happens.
What I got from that was that he found it too complicated for himself to be able to listen to it for any duration and prefers someone else that can speak in a way he can understand it better.

I saw what you did immediately also. Then I thought "What he is he trying to say?"
I do not think he was saying it is crap, I think he was saying he could not relate to the way Collier explains it.
I am not defending him, do not misread me.
I am just looking at what he is actually trying to say. Collier is at the age he is, a genius. I know people that love him and people that do not.
In saying that I can see you two have a history so I am only putting my view on what he might be trying to say from his own personal perspective, rather than what appears at face value.
We all express ourselves differently.
Some people are easily pleased some people find nothing is good enough. This is the world we live in.

 

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@BaSsDuDe you are right. There is a very good reason moogfog singled me out. People with this ' my shit don't stink ' attitude tend to fall flat on their faces...... hard.

 

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Shame when that happens. I have people that I feel the same about. A friend on here said to pretty much put "ignore" on and never take it off when I encounter that.
It seems to work well. Just never take it off and you won't get upset
Plus if you ignore them eventually they work out they are only talking to themselves. Even if they reply to you when it says it is not visible, leave it as invisible.

 

Yes , probably is a part of it

Then have an ear and a look at Marta Altesa, she plays really well and she is charming.

Alessandra Scaravilli:

Juana Serita

And a lot more enchanting young talented bassists.

 

Ok I understand now. Probably my English is not good enough, I didnt understood the title that way.

 

To be perfectly honest, I could have worded it better - I fixed the wording with an addition

 

Sorry guys, I'll repeat Henrik Linder with this video where he is playing Giant Steps.

The video should begin with him playing, if it does not, jump to 1:13

 

He's very talented

 

Why am I always surprised when I hear and see a woman ripping it up on bass? It bothers me to be in this mindset. When I first saw Suzie Quatro it felt wrong that a chick would be into the instrument, something incongruent with femininity perhaps, but that is way fucked up also. I am not that way about woman or men in another aspect. What's wrong with me Doctor, and is there a cure?

 

People mirror what they are exposed to. This generation is removing the attitudes of inequality from previous generations, although sometimes to extremes. If a person grew up in an environment of a single income household in the 1960s-1980 period, it is difficult to forget what they saw their parents doing. It does not mean they were wrong either because they only mirrored their parents.
Things change and mostly for the better and if not, people tend to rebel.
If a person is not prejudiced with a woman or a man doing the same thing, then it is merely a reflection of their youth and nothing more.