Need Help deciding between studio monitor or headphone.

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  1. Nehal

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    Yes I use a decent interface. Right, so is it suggested that I plugin the headphones to the interface or my mac directly?
     
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    As much as i hate de DT990's, a friend of mine uses them and it has given him decent results (he mixes exclusively on headphones). The one time i tried them they seemed a bit too spakly. I've mastered a few of the stuff he had mixed and they sounded like pretty much what anyone mixing through a high shelf boost would do. Nothing deal braking, but you may want to keep that in mind.

    I promised grandma, god bless her soul, i would stay on topic. But you may want to look up what soudproofing means before starting to do any of what BEAT said.
     
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    Your interface.
     
  5. Nehal

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    Aren't the DT-990s known to be like, really flat? I'm totally in look for getting headphones which actually tell me frankly how my mix is ATM. I heard and read online that DT-990s do a fine job with being honest about being flat. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. Thanks.
     
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    Also, what mic(s) are you using? If you don't have a room suitable then I suggest this. It's the best reflection filter out there and really neutralizes a room without that shitty damped sound of others I've heard. If I needed it I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
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    I have direct experience with recording/mixing/mastering on headphones.
    Been doing it for nearly 30 years.
    Not being able to mix in a suitably sound-treated room headphones become the obvious option (and cheaper at that too).
    I would choose the DT990 for mixing and mastering, of course, being open back type.
    For monitoring while recording you can use any in-ear headphones you have (those that come with phones are fine) until you have enough money to get a decent set of closed back cans.

    Those interested in hearing mixes done entirely on headphones let me know and I'll provide links to some mixes I did.
     
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    I think headphones can be a good way to go, as long as you can take your mixes out into the real world and learn how they translate. I can make decent mixes on AKG 240s because I've really learned them. But that said, good nearfields in even a shitty room can be great if you set them up right. I'd try for that as my first choice.
     
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    -I dont have any experiences with any of the headphones but I use the AKG K702 headphones myself and they works brilliant.

    -The only monitors I have experience with is HS5 and Eris E3.5.
    The Eris E3.5 has a small sub but is a ok monitors.
    The HS5 are much more "dry" (I guess most ppl will find them hard to mix on) but great if you get used to them.
    I´ll keep from telling you what monitors I have ....... they´re way over your budget.
     
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    If you look around you'll find frequency response charts of the DT990 that show a bit of a smiley EQ thing going on, and that's exactly what i heard, these things are not flat.

    But don't take my word for it (or anybody's word, everybody will tell you that X headphones are the best thing ever or are too affraid to say they're shit, specially review sites). The best thing you can do is try them yourslef. They may not be technically flat, but they may also be the kind of not-flat that fits you the best.

    At that price range, i don't think it's wise to obsess over flat response, just get something that benefits your work specifically. For that, you'll just have to try them, ideally with frequency sweeps or music you know very very well and have heard on many other systems. It should be pretty easy to convince a second-hand seller to let you try them before "buying" (even if you have no intention of buying), then run away in the most villanous way to celebrate your unethical actions, but not before getting a good idea of what the headphones sound like. Or you could try them on a store, idk, whatever lets you sleep at night.
     
  13. Nehal

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    Really informative. Thank you for your valuable input. One more step towards buying headphones and as per your recommendation, the DT 990s. If you have ny experience with HD 650s, can you please tell me which among the two I should go for and yes. I will def get a decent closed set o' cans once I'm ready for it.
     
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    Thank you for your input. So you suggest I go for a pair of Yamaha HS5s even in a completely untreated space I mix in?
     
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    Thanks for the advice. So according to you, which is that pair of open back headphones I should go for? In the range of HD650 and DT 990.
     
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    As I already have said:
    I dont know the two headphones you ask to, so I cant advise you.
    Good luck whatever you deside :like:
     
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    All of us here will have an opinion. Including you. I highly recommend you listen to both at a Guitar Center or somewhere that offers headphone previewing. All of the choices being recommended are solid.
     
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    ATME the beyerdynamic exaggerate the high freqs but you can adjust this with an EQ. A flatter and not way more expensive pair would be the AKG 712 (keep in mind the Sennheiser 6xx series is above 300 bucks).
     
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    Possibly. How big is the room? If it's reverberant it won't work. If it's small and just slaps back you may be ok, especially if you can get out in the middle a few feet away from the walls. Can you afford to try them out and return or sell them if it doesn't work? If you can't test drive them in your space then phones are probably a safer bet.
     
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  20. Nehal

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    It's not a room at all. It's just an open space with a roof above and that's it. And the reverberations, yes. They're not like MASSIVE but they are there. A LIL more than slapback and WAY LESS than HUGE. Will monitors help me get a clear idea and judgement of the low end in the mix? For the trying part, it's kinda complicated to order and return if I'm not exactly happy with 'em, unfortunately.
     
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