Need advise on getting plugs to work in Catalina

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  1. Mike Hunt

    Mike Hunt Newbie

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    Hi, wanted to list some plugs that cause logic 10.6 to quit upon launching them or simply wont show up.

    softube,
    After installing i found nothing that i shows up in my siftube plug folder in logic
    Tridnt range, amp room, all plugin bundle, valley people,

    would love to see softube marshalls etc for mac


    plugin alliance:
    what works is the complete 2014 and lindell 50

    But logic quits when i try launching plugs ins:
    -plugin alliance lindell, 80
    -plugin alliance TE-Lindell 100
    -plugin alliance NEOLE BIG AL

    how can most of these plugs be using the same lidstd etc, could removing these files will damage the system?

    lexicon 480L, no go!

    waves is another story, ppl say v12 works fine but i could not get anything going in Catalina 10.15.7

    please list what works, links and if anything above is out there
    Cheers
     
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  3. Lenny Belardo II

    Lenny Belardo II Rock Star

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    First thing to do in Catalina is disable System Integrity Protection. Start up in recovery mode open the terminal and type disable csrutil then restart. Some code signing knowledge will help as well.
    Standard code for signing apps
    sudo codesign -f -s -
    Note, there is a space after the last dash. Paste this in terminal and then drop the app in and enter your password.
    For some plugins this may be a fix
    sudo codesign -f -s - --deep /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components/
    Again paste in terminal, password and enter.

    Sorry I can't give any specific advice on PA plugins since I subscribe.
     
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  5. 5teezo

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    Check if SIP is disabled. Enter in Terminal: csrutil status. If it is not follow the guide provided above.

    About Softube:

    The old Softube Plugins Bundle for Mac 1.3.10 only works up until High Sierra and there are several other hurdles along the way.

    1. The installer doesn't work in Catalina. And: you can't just extract the plugins. They have to be extracted/build by the installer. You can circumvent this by running the the installer on High Sierra, just install everything and collect the installed plugins and manually install them in catalina.

    2. But more important is, that the patch by ssh which requires replacoing a file in the system folder breaks features like AppStore, since it's not been updated in ages. The other methods of rerouting the copy write protection calls by editing the hex code of the binrays never worked for me.

    3. Since in Catalina the OS is split into a user based working area and a system area it's really hard to get that file into the write protected system anyway. You can use a tool like Kext Updater (which is for hackintoshers) which comes with a tool to write enable the system partition, but like I said before you risk breaking pearts of the OS. On hackintoshes it's not a big deal to fix this, in a genuine mac it might be more complicated.

    PA Pluguns:

    Some PA plugins need fixing of the VST3 as well in order to work in logic, since the AU is just "referencing" it, like Neold Big Al:

    sudo codesign --force --deep --sign - /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components/NEOLD\ BIG\ AL.component/Contents/MacOS/NEOLD\ BIG\ AL
    and
    sudo codesign --force --deep --sign - /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components/NEOLD\ BIG\ AL.component/Contents/Resources/plugin.vst3
     
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  6. Mike Hunt

    Mike Hunt Newbie

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    Wow, amazing what i learned here,I’m also surprised to hear that no one made a manual install version of softube plugs,
     
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  7. Mike Hunt

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    would be nice if someone uploaded the files to install manually
    So according to this I can do the same for other plugin alliance plugins?
    I got the AU to work but go the no such director for vst3

    Is it possible to drag drop previous plug in alliance components and vst3 from the trial I used and do this? I tried doing the same thing fir Lindell 80 and lindell 80 bus but logic still quit :(
    Like focusrite, purple etc?
     
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    5teezo Audiosexual

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    Only if the .component includes a Contents/Resources Folder with a VST3 Plugin.
     
  9. Mike Hunt

    Mike Hunt Newbie

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    well I got everything I found online to work accept "plugin alliance TE-Lindell 100"
    I tried like 10 tens, checked every possible typo before pasting the method in the terminal and nada., logic simply quits as soon as I open this one and the terminated reasons states
    "Termination Reason: Namespace CODESIGNING, Code 0x2" (at least in the apple report I never sent )

    Will this method work with the plugin alliance 14 day trial components and vst3s?
    I erased all the stuff before installing the PA complete with the patch, if so can anyone here share their 14 day trial downloads? im after the focusrite and SSL strips, purple, iron etc

    pretty thanks!
     
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  10. clone

    clone Kapellmeister

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    did you try re code signing the PA? I like codesigner, permissions reset2, batChmod, etc tools instead of CLI... maybe try renaming files?>


    I just opened the Lindell T100 and I had it installed already. You use this thing? I don't think I'd loose any sleep over it. (sucks if its in older projects). I bet you already have much better ones.
     
  11. Mike Hunt

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    yeah I got it to work finally, had to rescan in logicX..

    So what about other new stuff in PA and Brainworx like the focusrite, SSL, Purple, etc,
    1-did you get these plugs to work the same way with the terminal?'

    And it seems no one got any decent softube stuff like Marshalls etc, at least inn Catalina+

    Im clueless with codesigner, love to learn if you have a step by step method?

    Thanks! truly appreciate any help!
     
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    clone Kapellmeister

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    code signer is a very simple little utility. you just drag the app or entire folder to the "gui" and select deep or simple for Gatekeeper. same as you would with the more verbose syntax in terminal such as sudo codesign --force --deep --sign - /
    just a little time and typing saver. mostly

    I'm still on Mojave. and will probably buy a new Mac before I install something later than it.
     
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  13. Mike Hunt

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    I got suckered init the CATALINA world with the new Notes and Reminder apps now allowing sub folders
    Do you know if its. possible to use code signer in Catalina?
    thanks!
     
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