Midi clock trigger via audio signal? Syncing Hardware Synth with Mobile Phone App Drum Sequencer?

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  1. Roject

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    Is it possible to Sync Hardware Synth with Android Mobile Phone App Drum Machine?
    or with only audio drums recording?
    How to do that?

    For example with Audioid app on Adroid device?

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    Yes. Is possible and easy to do but App must have midi control support, Audioid doesn't have.
    I mean something different, no midi from phone usb but audio from phone jack as midi trigger.

    For example Korg Volcas has midi sync and this looks like jack input
    So audio from phone to Korg Volca via jack cable will be able to trigger Volca?


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    ah ok.
    im not sure how they work, you might have trouble triggering different note values etc, it depends how it reads the audio.
    there are a few audio to MIDI plugins available, you could route audio into the computer then convert to MIDI and output that from the computer. im not sure which ones handle audio in a way that you can trigger different values though.

    here is a bunch on KVR:
    https://www.kvraudio.com/plugins/in.../audio-to-midi/audio-to-midi-converter/newest

    maybe one of those will be useful?
     
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    this one looks like it might work:
    http://www.knzaudio.com/index.php?midifier
    it is on sister site to try.

    edit:
    this one looks like it can do 3 notes, and its free. it uses filters and envelope followers to seperate drum hits, so in theory you could use a couple of these parallel and trigger up to 6 notes, maybe even get away with more if you are careful with sample selection.
    i would load sine waves into the drum machine, i think you could get plenty of MIDI notes out like that.

    http://www.koen.smartelectronix.com/KTDrumTrigger/
     
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    Thanks. I'm shure this will be useful for me with some stuff.
    But still I mean something else. I want to use drums from phone with hardware synth like Volca or Roland TB-03 without PC.
    Only Phone and synth. Something like Roland TB-03 + Behringer RD-8 but instead of buying Behringer RD-8 I want to use my phone.
    But is unsync. And there is the point.
    How to sync phone with hardware? Is it possible?
     
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    ah ok i see.

    the volca site has this picture, that suggests its possible, but they dont explain a lot. i definitely think that series is something to look into more:

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    EDIT:
    it seems to be iphone only :(
    i hate apple
     
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    Thanks for answer. I never use stuff from apple.
    I don't have any hardware and to be honest I don't know how the sync between hardware works.
    I'm planning to buy Korg Volca NuBass or Nu:Tekt NTS-1 but I would like to use it with some drum machine without pc.
    There is some not expensive 2nd hand drum machines like Alesis SR-16 but digital. I have pretty same thing on my phone.
    Yeah but how to sync question remains.
     
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    i dont use apple stuff either, i hate them.
    sorry i cant be more help. my knowledge is lacking with modular gear like this.
    maybe you could email korg and ask them what is possible. they will jump at the chance to make a sale :)

    edit:
    also, if you see an app that says it can do this kind of thing definitely message the devs and ask how its possible. what is the app you are using? does it claim it can do this?
     
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    Good idea. I send message to support.
    Unfortunately I use Audioid app which is deleted from Google Play and not developed since 2015.
    But is very good.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20140915182106/http://audioid.android.quet.org/
     
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    i cant see any mention of that software supporting anything like that, not even MIDI I/O. you might be out of luck with that app. maybe there is another app that can do it though
     
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    I've got a message from NL Korg Provider. I'm still waiting for other countries providers to response.

    "This won't be possible because all the audio will go through the jack output on your Android mobile phone.
    The only way it could work is if there would exist a midi box which you could connect to your phone so you could send midi clock through that to the Volca Nubass, but the program would need to be able to send midi clock too ..."
     
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    there is some hope then?
    i have seen MIDI interfaces and bodges to make them work with phones. not sure about specific to android though :/
    i hope you can get it going
     
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    Had both an Android phone and an iPhone for a while and checked out almost every app available and had to conclude that in terms of advanced music/composition/synth/FX apps, there's really no comparison.

    There is one great app that should work however:
    G-Stomper studio by planet-h.
    It also happens to be maybe the most powerful Android groovebox.
    https://www.planet-h.com/g-stomper-studio/
     
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