Melodyne can make the noise of a guitar.

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  1. ryck

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    I want to share something that for me was incredible.
    I was playing with guitar riffs and basses, recorded by line to mix them with synthesizers. But since my instruments do not tune well, then use the melodyne to tune it. And surprise! (Maybe you know) when I put the correct tuning in the guitar there was a line down and I deleted it because I realized that it had nothing to do with the melody of the guitar (I thought it was a harmonic). But for my surprise it was the mass noise. That is, it seems melodyne can detect the melody and turn the noise without affecting the real sound. and I do not remain with robotic sound like other plugins that take out noise. Try it I wanted to share this because this page gave me a lot. I hope it serves you.

    PS: I used it in polyphonic mode

    Update: Demos



     
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  3. Olymoon

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    Very interesting
     
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  4. Dread_J

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    my telecaster is very interested in what you said
     
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  5. phloopy

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    Thanks for your head up @ryck :like:
     
  6. lexeed

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    Post a clip?
     
  7. Baxter

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    Melodyne is basically an FFT tool, so yeah. It works similarly to iZotope RX7, etc. But it is focused on fundamentals and harmonics (odd and even). If you remove the "noise" (what noise exactly?) you essentially keep the sines. Maybe that is what you meant (since you didn't post an audio example or screen-shot).
    Tip: post audio and screenshot.
     
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  8. Xupito

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    Well, is FFT based but there's more than that. May be I'm saying a foolishness, but could it be that identified that noise as another instrument? I haven't dug much into melodyne since I use midi instruments but there's amazing things in that tool.
     
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  9. ryck

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    Yes im do it today. Sorry my sad english. Im speack spanish
    Here demo

    Noise:



    Whitout noise



    I know maybe in final listen like robotic. I dont say this is the solution. I say maybe this can work for something. I never see this and i think is interesing for share and maybe some people can do it something better whit this. Im trying now removed but not all noise. i say...i can do it two track. removed noise...and only noise..and whit track whit noise down volumen or put other think..i dont know. you know....

    You are trying to do something, but then something comes out that you did not expect and you say. wow this could work on many things. I just think it's a matter of experimenting.
     
  10. Xupito

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    With the demos now everybody knows, he meant the classic noise due to the house electric supply.

    Pues yo te he entendido perfectamente... oh wait .. ;)
    Pero gracias igualmente por tomarte la molestia de poner las demos. Muy interesante.
     
  11. Baxter

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    The noise is hum. A 50Hz tone (in europe) and its overtones. Melodyne ofc analyzes this and take it for a constant note/tone from your instrument. So you are basically doing polyphonic deletion of note(s), thus removing the hum/drone/pedal-point.

    You can also remove this with notch filters. :) When recording acoustic/classical guitar you usually highpass it anyways (up to the lowest string's fundamental) so you will remove the hum with this highpass. Usually there is no hum to begin with, if you have a healthy signal path (with no grounding issues).

    Melodyne uses very similar FFT noise-gating as in iZotope RX7 (spectral de-noising). Look into RX7 and FFT (Fast Fourier Transform) processing. The "robotic" sound in the end is the artifacts of the processing, just like low bitrate mp3 conversion "noise"/artifacts.

    Edit: Also look into grounding and isolating your gear, so that you don't get hum and/or interference.
     
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  12. ddoctor

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    I am afraid he is talking about the opposite - melodyne is introducing the hum during the tuning process. You misunderstood the point.
     
  13. Xupito

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    Now I feel really intrigued. Can you elaborate? Not saying you're wrong but it doesn't seem logic. And the hum sounds very real.
     
  14. fiction

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    That's not how I understood it. It looks more like Melodyne "correctly" detected the hum and basically opened the possibility to easily switch it on and off.
     
  15. ddoctor

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    Yes, reading his post again all I see now is a very misleading explanation. Don't want to criticize his english but in this case I have no other choice!
     
  16. Xupito

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    I only was sure after hearing his demos. He knows his english is bad and, well, we all (non native english speakers) had to start from the bottom (see my sig lol). There's no shame on that, he put some effort posting the demos.
     
  17. ddoctor

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    It is just that the no noise version sounds badly tuned and badly played - the hum version sounds like an actual guitar also tuned better.
     
  18. metaller

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    On distorted guitars, the over notes are detected in Melodyne. You can remove them to get a synth-like sound.
     
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    Ddoctor is misspelled.:winker:
     
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