Seems there's a very sensitive part there, huh?

 

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Important: For severe anxiety disorders

Natural remedies can be a valuable supplement, but should not be used without professional supervision for very severe anxiety disorders. Consult a doctor or therapist before self-medicating.

All natural remedies at a glance

• Ashwagandha – The Indian stress reliever
• Saffron – The golden spice for the soul
• Ginkgo – The circulation promoter for clear thoughts
• St. John's Wort – The natural mood enhancer
• Kava – The relaxation plant from the South Seas
• Valerian – The proven calming agent
• Passionflower – The anxiety reliever for circulating thoughts
• Lavender – The aromatherapy champion

 

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PLEASe, try L-theanine in high dose. Its really harmless and nothing had such a consistent effect on my anxiety as that. It does not even come wiith side effects..if oyu dont feel anxiety, you just feel normal. Most other stuff that relives anxiety, comse with other stuff you dont nessaaril want (feeling drowsy, slow etc) but L-theanine doesnt have that.

L-theanine is just the carlming part about tea, and then 100 fold without the anxiety increaasing things that is also in tea that lots of people do not know about about: Caffeine. So by taking only the L theanine without hte caffeine, you just feel so calm from it. Whenever I feel anxietty, , I take L-theanine and most of it is gone in 10 mintees. STart out at least taking higher doses.I take 1000 MG daily and never felt the intensity and consistncy of my anxiety ever since starting it like 2 years ago.

It's been a huge game changer for me

DOwnisde; if you take it and higher doses like me its not super cheap..but so worth it

 

Different situationes and circumstances "tax" the body differently, based on the enviroment.

The story is, it is not always some miracle chemical compound, sometimes body is trying to pin point us, maybe if one try to stop being on the internet more than an hour a day and do it for a week or two. We live in the insane times, nobody lived thru this so far...why we take in with our mind/eyes/ear is also important.

Like, getting a cat or a dog or something like this..you get my point. Something for the spirit and not for the body itself.

 

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It makes me feel extremely wired. Everything as potential side effects, a lot of 'miracle' vitamins and minerals in higher doses can make me drowsy, wired, or get a pounding headache. Doctors have no idea why i'm so sensitive to apparently heathy vitamins, but i suspect my gut bacteria is the culprit.

Regarding anxiety, between 35 and 45 i started having heavy anxiety attacks, which i believe it were related to 20 years of smoking dope. Eventually I had a full nervous breakdown after a crippling year long episode of strong unexplainable physical symptoms and hypochondria (which i think might have been triggered by a minor brain aneurysm, due the specific sudden violent sinus pain that started it all). Rebuilding myself after that weirdly put me in a much better headspace, and anxiety attacks became rare. I didn't want to take pills because i can feel anything 'changing' my headspace.

Feeling better I moved abroad, only to be seriously injured in spain. That cost me my new relocated job, all while my father was dying of cancer. That pushed me so far into mental (sleep deprivation) and physical pain hell, when i recovered from the combined death, job, and health problems, I was super calm and so fucking relieved to be in one piece. I now find it hard to indulge hypochondria after facing that level of real physical discomfort.

8 years later i'm still generally calm, with slight childhood related anger issues, that only appear with extreme provocation. This isnt a solution i will admit :D but maybe proof facing and surviving extreme life challenges can be good for mental health?

 

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I wont comment on the rest as that is a complex puzzle only you could likely solve like, but the theanine thing is more common than you'd think. theanine is a compound that modulates neurotransmission away from excitatory and towards inhibitory, but if you already have low GABAergic tone, then the only place for that theanine to go is back into excitatory, so glutamate. hence increased anxiety, feeling wired etc. since you mentioned you are an ex dope smoker, i think it's pretty much a given you either have dysregulated GABAergic transmission/sensivity, or a low density of receptors. you might be better off trying things that bind specifically to GABA-A receptors on the tonic inhibitory sites like Magnolia Bark, Chinese Skullcap, and something called Kutki. these act like placeholder for what your brain is supposed to naturally do when your neurons are too tipped towards excitation. they are supposed to induce tonic inhibition of GABA, but in some people for various reasons this is no longer the case. another thing worth looking into is PEA (palmitoylethanolamide)acts like an indirect precursor to allopregnanolone which is used to activate tonic inhibitory GABA rather than phasic

 

Could be (if i understood half of that ;D ), I really don't need anything like that or a parallel these days, it was originally tried in the middle of the anxiety episodes years ago. I don't get anxiety myself anymore. Wish id had this suggestion at the time.

My stress triggers have specific causes now (job, too much internet, etc), and i change them, the stress goes. But my 40's were a chaotic disaster :D

 

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Yah can just report your own post to the mods and request they delete it.

 

oh wow! I had not expected tat. I myself have a fucked up digestive system and I react to most things myself, including a single pill/capsule of super normal minerals/vitamins/herb/ etc...They all give me anxiety or even more insomnia than I already have! So good to know that people can react badly to this too (I thought: if i cna handle it while i get symptoms of 3/4 of all vitam/mineral/herb/etc pills, then it might be a sign its possiblt not somehing others react to either, as i dont know anyone that reacts as badly to everytsay stuff compared to me..i eevn havo to avoid 80% of all foods due to histames or other of such things. ANyway, great to hear you dont suffer from anxiety anymore..tits one of the worst things to suffer from, at least in the intensity I have/had it.

 

I've had way worse addictions than kratom Like you said, as long as you don't run out, it doesn't interfere with quality of life that much.

They're unrelated AFAIK. Mate is a plant with caffeine (among other alkaloids). Kratom is closer to opioids (yeah, opioids can be stimulant too).

Their common characteristic is that they taste like ass

 

Im still riddled with regular headaches and certain foods can make me very sluggish and inflamed, but then so can the weather. I long ago accepted its my curse, and while i avoid a handful of obvious headache triggers (smoked food, cheese and chocolate) most of the time, i've given up trying to over think food or avoid loads of it - better to enjoy life. Some days i know I'm just going to feel shitty, so a drop a couple of ibuprofen and get on with it. After the hypochondria, I've realised i feel a lot less physically crap if just don't try to solve my weird body. I just accept it now, which i think lowers adrenaline, tension in the body etc.

Last year me and my partner both caught a strange variant of whooping cough, and i swear the violent coughing and throat phlegm was so annoying i thought i might commit suicide one of the nights. She dismissed it when i got it first and told me to stop being a wimp, then a week later her symptoms kicked in, and she apologising, saying its a nightmare and crying a lot, bless her.

Three times i've had covid, back on my feet in a week each time. Whooping cough stretched my patience completely, Doctors were useless, just said id had to suffer and ride it out. But i discovered one of the anti histamines stops throat phlegm, gave it a go and sweet relief was found.

Still took 9 months to fully shake off.

Nearly every ailment I've ever had, i had to navigate on my own because it was a weird version of it, so I feel for everyone struggling, human bodies are so fucking random and weird

 

This used to be a music/producing related forum site! & now its a load of booolocks baby sitting everyone!

 

"Medication destroyed my life" (KM)

5 pages of comments showing you're not alone!

Someone is getting worse then you Kate, when a thread gets out of hand.

 

The Problem with Mainstream Medicine

General care often fails people with atypical symptoms. If you ever want to dig deeper, a sympathetic (sometimes private/alternative) practitioner—integrative GP, nutritionist, or even a good allergist—may take your odd pattern more seriously.

Do you take vitamin D? Do you perhaps have a vitamin D deficiency? Vitamin D is good for reducing inflammation in the body. Have you ever been tested for parasites? Perhaps there are alternative medicine practitioners in your country? Have you visited one yet? Do you consume processed sugar? It's best to do some research online about the things mentioned!

 

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I could name a factor that I think i really influences us in some way we don't understand or better, its hidden ...you should check your surroundings, radiation meters, measure how may volts per meter you have in your area, isolate your house or move out from the city ...try to get in contact with nature, walk shoeless on the grass, observe nature ...

 

yes, i spent years exploring alternative medicine as well, tried vitamin D for months, lowered sugar, cut out wheat, carbs, dairy, nightshades etc, etc, all the miracle sensitivity solutions, no real change, and sometimes i felt worse. And the more i poked around alternative medicine's unproven claims and bad science, the more cynical i grew about it as well. Its very much a business like traditional medicine.

Both sides can work and have value, but in reality, both are a minefield, with these ambiguous ailments they are all making huge presumptions when offering solutions.

As i said the thing that's made me feel most healthy is the mental clarity and calmness ive had over last few years. Bar my headaches and odd sluggish days, I'm a very active person - I cycle every day, and explore nature as much as possible. This plus moving out of a big city, and deciding not stress about a lot of things anymore seem to have had the most positive impact on my body. So i do align with the idea that certain types of ailments are highly influenced by psychological state.

 

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check out photobiomodulation and DSMO

 

I have a lot of background for this issue. Mental health issues have plagued my family for generations. Directy, my grandfather shot himself due to depression, and my mother literally went into the woods and laid down and died due to being bipolar. I swore I would never allow myself to suffer the same way and medication saved my job and my life.

However, for years doctors have blindly tried medications based on symptoms, and had many failures due to physical and mental factor based on unique patient reactions.

My spouse was the director at a County Mental factors. In the last few years psyciatrists have been using a new form of testing that has improved proper medication assignments called pharmacogenomic (PGx) testing. This testing uses genetic classification to help best address which medications might work best for specific patients.

Spoiler: Googles AI

Googles AI shows "it can help guide the selection and dosage of mental health medications by analyzing a person's DNA to predict how they might metabolize and respond to certain drugs. This testing can identify gene-drug interactions, potentially reducing trial and error in treatment and minimizing side effects. While not a guarantee of effectiveness, PGx testing can offer valuable insights for personalized treatment plans."

If you are having poor medicinal interactions this test might be worth your time.

 

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It should be about finding ancient healing knowledge that can help and advance you in the thicket of pharmaceuticals, and as you say and have experienced yourself, 99% of it is probably just there to line the manufacturers' pockets. So we are looking for the 1% of truth.

100 (EDIT: 200/300) years ago, there was little pharmacy and many healers. There weren't as many chemicals in the food we eat and the air we breathe. Sometimes chemicals emanate from furniture and walls, sometimes chemical products were used in your house or apartment.

Some people test their home environment for harmful influences; some rip out the old carpet, some the old lead pipes, and so on. In the past, young people driving to school would complain about difficulty concentrating and nervousness, and the teachers then discovered that it was the lead in the exhaust gases that was causing this.

Today, we have catalytic converters in Europe and probably less lead in the air. As you can see, we are looking for a needle in a haystack.

There used to be a book called "Death Comes from the Intestines," which apparently teaches the immune system. It was a big seller, and the thick book was a great help to many people. As you can see, the old knowledge and insights about illnesses are very important, but are increasingly being replaced by pharmaceuticals. Most doctors (not all) act as they learned at university, and little can be expected from them. In very poor countries, people can't afford expensive medicine.

In China, for example, people go to a general practitioner, who then prescribes herbs and tree bark, which they can buy for $5 in the in-house pharmacy, which has many drawers filled with dried tree bark and herbs. People then brew a decoction of these at home and drink it for a few days. It usually helps, but sometimes it doesn't. They practice acupuncture, acupressure, Tai Chi, and yoga. Fasting cures under medical supervision, such as in Russia, have cured many illnesses.

Industrial sugar is responsible for many illnesses. Reduce it to zero. Instead, have dates, honey, and raisins if you need something sweet. Eat an apple every day; it's very good for your gut/digestion. Buy a blank notebook or pad, write down what you eat every day, and how you're feeling. You might then discover what you tolerate well and what you don't, and which chemicals in food make you sick or even healthier.

The body always tries to maintain balance, according to its mission to stay healthy. So, we are 50% healthy and 50% sick. The body always tries to get rid of bacteria, viruses, and harmful substances that it doesn't need, that don't belong there. Through breathing, urine, sweating, and digestion. If the balance is disturbed, we feel sick or less productive.

For example, bisphenol A was and still is sometimes found in plastics such as plastic bottles. This disrupts hormonal balance and can change many things in the body. Plastic wasn't invented 100 years ago, so you couldn't get sick from it back then. As you can see, we have a lot more chemicals in the air, water, and food today, which are increasingly polluting us and can also make us sick. I recently got rid of a lot of plastic wrap because of the plasticizers. I don't know if it helped, but having fewer pollutants in the home is always good.

I took two hours to share my views with you. Feel free to copy this text and refer to it from time to time.
Maybe you'll find something else you can try or have overlooked.

 

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