This guy on youtube claims you can use Instachord inside of Maschine with bluecat's patchwork and
it works as usual. I consider my self pretty good at figuring these things out and making them work.
But, in this case I believe he is wrong. Tried many ways (Including) his to get them to work as normal (after setting up) like in Cubase or logic or Ableton. But Bluecat doesnt seem to want to play right with the 2 chord plugins. Even if I just use the stand alone.

Thoughts?

 

Last edited: May 10, 2018

It should work, like with any patchbay utilities (patchwork, metaplugin, bidule). What's weird with his video is that he could do what he does inside FLS with patcher who's included. Maybe cause he uses au
Anyway the only thing I have a doubt about is instachord which I don't know nor use. But I use scaler or chtulus or any other arp/chord generator (or more precisely midi generator) inside bidule (which I use for those tasks as I find it's the best fited for it, metaplugin coming second, not a fan of BC patchwork, I prefer to connect virtual cable).
And it does work in any daw environnement as it is more or less the point of those hosting plugins. Your patches are reusable in any daw.

 

Hello Talmi. Thank you 4 ur response. What you say about Bidule is probably true. But my argument is with Patchwork, Instachord and Maschine. I got scaler to work in Maschine (Just playing around with it), but he stated that his method would work with Instachord and maschine. Now...even though Instachord works in exactly the same way of "Setting" it up. It just won't trigger like he states in Machine and i was just wondering if it was just me.

No biggie...It just bothered me a little for those who might not be that adept at figuring things out and follow his advice only to fail.

Peace.

 

BC Patchwork works the same way as bidule. You can send midi between fxs (with more limitations than bidule but still) and it can be set as an instrument in Machine. It should work. Did you pick the BC patchwork Vsti to insert in Machine ? I've set up successfully already midi tools in patchwork and I remember the midi tool must be inserted in the first slot of fx or midi won't go through, did you do that ?

 

I've never tried the new BC patchwork. I'll give it a test this afternoon or tomorrow and let you know if I can set up scaler in it...

 

I can already use Scaler in Maschine. its that Instachord won't behave. I'm pretty good at this, but maybe I've over looked something.
But that would be rare. I cant get Instachord to trigger the synth when I use Patchwork, but Scaler has no problem doing the same. At this point I believe its just a Maschine-Patchwork-Instachord thing.

I use mac and everything is upto date with no issues. All my plugings I own and up to date, so good luck. Definitely worth the challenge. Thanks.

 

Yeah I just checked on the site where they sell instachord (plugin boutique) and midi routing doesn't work in Machine.

https://www.pluginboutique.com/product/3-Studio-Tools/72-Utility/4249-InstaChord

It should work in BC patchwork stand alone though. I'll test that.

 

Again, already read that, but patchwork is the subject and that MB dude said it works. Also it didn't work for me in the standalone Patchwork either, just Scaler did. So, I assume it won't for you. But I await your results.

 

Yeah but I didn't know that, nor did I know that you did. Just trying to be thorough.
Anyway didn't need much fiddling it works fine in Blue Cat Audio stand alone. Instachord plus zebra2. Instantanious result .
Just configure the midi output of instachord and the midi input of your receiving vsti (pretty much exactly the way the guy shows it in his video, choose matching port (A for example) and channel and you're good to go. First I did send to all and receive from all, but it didn't work. You have to pick specific port and channel.

And nice plug instachord ! Didn't know it and I ended up buying it for 15$ on the dev site (80% off !). So thanks for that.

 

Last edited: May 10, 2018

Great job, If you got it to work. Mac or windows? But what you described does not work for me. Thats crazy. I have did those things and more. Same as for Scaler, but scaler works. Oh well, I'll just chalk this one up as a loss.

I use it mainly in Cubase. But was interested in seeing it work in Bluecat. You're welcome.

Thanks for the feedback.

 

@Talmi Ah...You're on PC. Do you have a Mac?

 

No, no mac where I can try.

 

6am...And I just wouldn't let this go...lol. Ok, Here's what my problem seems to be...I just closed everything down rebooted, Disconnected my Native Instruments Kontrol 61 and Maschine Studio from USB Port and Now Instachord works in Standalone mode and In Maschine.
Don't know why, But I'm going to sleep! I hate situations like this. But when I rise I'll be back at it trying to figure out where the underlying problem comes from. W/o my controllers I wouldn't use Instachord since everything else in my system purrs like a kitten. But I will try to resolve this nightmare. Gotta love technology!

Take it easy Talmi.

 

Ah ! it's progressing at least...Maybe it has to do with how your midi inputs/outputs of your hardware are setup ? In Mac OS you can natively route midi I think ? Not really a mac os specialist...Something with how your hardware is setup seems to stuck the midi traffic of some of your vsts (I checked in bidule where you can monitor midi and audio traffic in detail and instachord outputs midi on channel number 1, so maybe there is jamming going on there)...
Anyway hope you figure it out....

 

Ok, Fyi for those that need it. Here is the Synapse... Scaler and Instachord won't work in Maschine if you use the Blue cat Patchwork AU. If you use Patchwork you must stick to the VST version and then you must Only use VST plugins. Kinda disables the true purpose of using Patchwork but, atleast it's a work-around for using Scaler or Instachord in Maschine.

MacPro Sierra OS, Maschine 2.7.2, Blue Cat patchwork 2.0, Scaler 1.0.0 and Instachord 1.0.2

 

Pretty sure he proved you wrong in the new videos you even had a cameo in it lol

 

lol sure did.

 

No he did not. He stated in that 1st video that They worked with Maschine, He never said only Vst's because he did not know. He didn't even have Maschine installed (since he hates Maschine) to find out. But his statement which he found out 2 weeks later was Half ass and half right. If you are on a Mac using Au's only which is what I do or just want to use Au's in Maschine, then you cannot use scaler or Instachord in Maschine with Blue Cats Patchwork Au's.

Now, since you and your clone (Spacely) trolled this and think he is right prove it! He even now states that you can't use the Patchwork AU's with them. But I knew (read above) that 2 weeks ago. Thanks for perpetuating his misinformation.

Just Like I told him...Know what you are talking about before you speak it! You 2 came here to be disruptive..you have nothing to offer to this thread. Practice better behavior in the future.

Silly Wabbits!

 

Last edited: May 23, 2018

to much overhead for my taste