making claps

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  1. Rockseller

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    can someone give me a feedback on that?

    this is one layer made from scratch w noise/filter/envelope

    I really like to know if something is wrong with that clap and how to improve the quality of a selfmade sample

    - I cut off everything below 200
    - startpoint should be good
    - no compression was used (I tried but it didnt make it better)
    - maybe I should make a peak somewhere idk or shape it somehow?
    - stereo/mono? add width?

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1rPyXybSVtXN-JrxqaDJBb0lCU2PwZSx7

    thank you folks
     
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  3. Blue

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    I have edited it whith:
    IK Black76 compressor
    EQ
    Waves Vitamin
    Soundtoys Microshift
    EQ
    Brainworx subsynth
    Multiband compressor
    Maag EQ
    Waves L1 limiter

     
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    Sounds pretty artificial and metallic.
     
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    Listen to deadmau5. Record your claps. The best and most juicy sounding claps come from smacking your butt. Layer a lot of takes. Yes, in most of his tracks you can hear assclaps.
     
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    hello Blue, thx for your reply

    you used subsynth. that means it was lacking low frequencies? and how should I work on it with Eq? make some peaks somewhere or cut something out somewhere? how you know what to do? I looked at it with a spectrum eq and it looked like another reference clap... noidea how to check a sample. and when I put a limiter or a compressor on that I can barely hear a difference. But you did a lot w that clap. what should I learn next?

    Qrchacks advice is not bad. Recording claps makes sense.
     
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    For me yes it is still lacking low frequencies,that's why I used bx subsynth.But I didn't want to destroy your sample,so I have been subtle with all plugins.
    The 2 first EQ are only subractive equalization.I just added few frequencies with the last EQ,the Maag EQ.I like to use analog style EQ for gain boost.Practically on every track I use the Brainworx SSL4000E for its EQ.But I don't find its dynamics section awesome on the other hand.
    And I like a lot the IK Multimedia Black76 compressor or Empirical Labs Arousor or Brainworx Bx opto for compression,according to the sound source.
    So the first compressor is for the punch.
    Personnally I always remove the nasty frequencies/resonances I don't like first,and then I add some of them if the sound needs it.And I try to keep the original tone,I rarely apply more than 6 dB of gain boost,unless it is for a special or creative effect.And when Ithe sound needs to be Hi passed I try to do the task with 6 or 12db/octave hi pass shapes.

    The Waves Vitamin for some harmonics,it's very handy for drums for me with its 5 bands.
    Then Soundtoys Microshift to broaden the clap a bit.

    I used 2 bands on the Multiband compressor,because i find multiband compressors powerfulls when you need to correct the spectral balance of a sound,and way more transparent than a simple EQ.But they are not very easy to use for beginners.
    But in the end you sculpt the sound according to your tastes,and we haven't all the same tastes.

    For your last question,keep in mind to use a compressor for adding punch,for enhancing transients or sustain.But don't use any compressor for any task;if you don't know yet the different types of compressors search on internet what are they each usefull for.
    The attack and sustain parameters on a compressor are crucial parameters,for me all the complexity is these 2 parameters.

    A limiter is usefull for avoiding some peaks in a recording,or attenuate transients too,or for raising the level RMS or your sound.A limiter doesn't add punch like a compressor.
     
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  8. Gyro Gearloose

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    source must be better:dunno:
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    i think dubstep rosko always layer 2 claps together...always

    i think the 2 claps in op post are to short...must be longer for a clap...

    i dunno are you sure ?
     
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  9. Blue

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    Yes a hi pass filter at 200 Hz is very or too high for a clap or a snare IMHO.
    And every clap or snare is a different sound,so I never equalize them all the same way.
    Yes I agree.:wink:

    But it depends of the musical genre and the tempo too.
     
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    Why? You just cut off all the frequencies where the clap can actually be felt, instead of heard
     
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    awesome guys thank you. this helps.
     
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    To add, I'd layer several different claps if you can't record some new ones. This can help them sound more realistic and exciting.
     
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    Just out of curiosity, why don't combine free clap samples to your own sound?
     
  15. Rockseller

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    i really want to be able to make it myself from scratch w the best possible quality. but yeah its cool to do that and combine samples. can create whatever... but if I take two claps from nick mira and layer them with a snare from whomever. then that's not really mine. damn I love collecting good oneshots... I also would be interested in doing some field recordings and then process the audio to drumkits and instruments. that would be fun.
     
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