MacOSX Catalina - Things to Consider (k’ed plugins)

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  1. _unknown

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    Hi everyone!

    As stated on the title, I'm creating this topic not for extensive talks about this new MacOSX Catalina, but most importantly which k'ed plugins will still work with it.

    I know there is another thread talking about the system, but this one is intended to WRITE AND SHARE THE EXPERIENCES about which k'ed plugins run with Catalina.

    Let us all know with which plugins you experienced or knew about issues or not. So we all can have a more informed know-how about all this fuss with the new coded MacOSX, and how it will affect users that have this kind of plugins.

    I've heard k'ed Kontakt is not running properly on the new OP System.
    I'm pretty sure that k'ed plugins which needed to change the "libstdc++" file will not work anymore (like Softube, and so on) But I don't know if that's true.

    Just to be safe, I already have my copy of Mojave for further needs.
     
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  3. MORTIX

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    I installed it on a separate partition to test it out and all my DAW`s (Logic X, Ableton 10, Cubase 10 Pro , Reaper) seem to work fine.. Not tested all the plugins yet.. but the only caveat that i found until now is that the MAC Keygen APP is no longer working.. Which suck to all the keygen needs.. I will continue to report as i dig deeper..
     
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    Thanks for the contribution @MORTIX

    Unfortunately I'm traveling and not with my studio computer. So I can't do much right now.
     
  5. Slavestate

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    Thats more than likely Wine's fault, not Apples. A lot of 64bit Wine is just not going to work because of incompatibility between 64bit Windows and OS X (this is how its always been, Catalina doesn't matter). That keygen app, if its the same one Im thinking of, isn't really an app as it is. Its just a Wineskin installer. Instead of running an installer exe and installing an app in a Wineskin, youre just running a keygen. Thats why it gives you funny messages when its done, it wants to be pointed to the exe it was meant to run in Wine, but there isn't one. You ran a keygen instead of an installer, kinda like a quick Windows shell or something. Are the keygens 64bit apps to begin with?
     
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    How to determine if the update is functional or creates problems for my workflow
    When I feel to upgrade os this is my procedure:
    • Install Parallel Desktop into the regular os
    • Install new os into the virtual machine
    • Install apps and plugin needed and test the usual workflow with new os
    This is the only way for me to be 100% sure of having new os working
     
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    This morning,a mail from Plugin Alliance:


    WARNING: macOS CATALINA 10.15

    Apple has announced the release of macOS Catalina (10.15)

    We are currently performing final tests to make sure that all of our products will be compatible with Catalina. We expect to have tested and verified versions for all of our plugins by the end of October.

    To avoid any disruption with any of your ongoing projects, we ask that you do not update to Catalina until we announce Catalina compatibility.

    We will announce the compatibility shortly. This is a pure info mail, no action required on your end right now.

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  8. statik

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    try downloading wine bottler, it's basically the same thing. i have the strange thing on mojave that the keygen app wont close when i try to close it, always have to use the force quit option. the wine bottler doesnt have this problem

    bottles'r'us
     
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    Is there any advantage over Mojave besides being able to use some iPads as 2nd Monitor ?
     
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    Somewhat of an off topic question, is this something that happens and can happen on Mac because of its particular architecture, or could this also happen in Windows?
     
  12. MORTIX

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    Yeah its probably Wine fault.. Still no luck with original Wine downloaded from his site.. I guess Parallels its the only working solution for now to run keygens.. As about the plugins, i tested this and are working fine on Catalina:

    Fab Filter Bundle
    Plugin Alliance (Old Release)
    iZotope Insight, Neutron, Trash2, Ozone 9
    All Voxengo
    JST Plugins
    Kilohearts Bundle
    Xfer Serum, OTT, Chutulhu, LFO Tool, Dimention Expander
    Valhalla Reverbs and Delay
    Sausage Fattner (v.1.1.5)
    Sonic Academy Kick 2 and A.N.A
    Native Instruments Battery 4, Kontakt 6, Massive, Massive X, FM8, RC24, RC48
    Sugar Bytes WOW2, Effectrix and Turnado
    Melda Production 13.05
    Cableguys Shaperbox
    Lexicon Reverbs
    Audio Realism ABL3
    Bluecat Patchwork
    Spire
    Vengeance VPS Avenger (and all expantions)
    U-he Zebra 2.7.2
    Loopcloud
    Waves Bundle

    I will keep you updated as i find more..
    If someone know a work around the Wine Keygen that would be awsome!
     
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    I'm not sure if that will be at all possible;
    I briefly checked forums of Codeweaver's Crossover (basically commercially optimized WINE) and the new limitation of Catalina not supporting 32bit apps makes it impossible to use any 32bit WINE layer, including the hosted Windows apps (which most likely all KG's are anyway):
    https://www.codeweavers.com/about/blogs/jschmid/2019/9/10/so-we-dont-have-a-solution-for-catalinayet
    so far it seems virtualization like Parallels, VMWare and VirtualBox are way to go
    :chilling:
     
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    Yeah i suspect that.. That`s fine.. a little more work but its doable with Parallels.. Thanks!
     
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    Seems like the best move for someone who buys a new mac from now on and have lots of plugins to install, is to downgrade to Mojave, install all the compatible plugins with the wine bottle or keygen app, and after that update to Catalina. Mac installations and updates don’t take much time to make.

    Not a big deal for me this year, since I can stay with Mojave if needed for a while, but new macs will come next year and problems will start to happen if we buy a new one. Probably, as sooner we make the move, the better.

    With new releases let’s see what scene teams can come up with. As last option only virtual machines can do the job with keygens. I’m afraid we will start seeing even less releases for Mac users than solutions in the beginning.

    @MORTIX At least kontankt works. Have you tested the version 5 to import libraries, with the last 6 version right? Do the libraries work ok?

    Anyone can confirm Softube bundle is working on Catalina?

    I was already thinking in buying Soundtoys this month, now it became a priority. I’m really f*cked if suddenly I have to buy lots of plugins because of this move from apple.
     
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    win amp supports Catalina!
     
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    Winebottler definitely does not work however I too used Parallels and it worked like magic. Here is a list of plugins that are NOT working based on my own experience (if anyone can provide feedback if there are known k’d updates or alternatives please do let me know, especially the first two on this list):

    1. Brainworx (Noooooo!)
    2. Sylenth
    3. Softube
    4. Soundtoys
    5. SPL
    6. Korg
    7. Lex
    8. The glue
    9. PSP
    10. Sausage Fattner
     
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    :woot:
     
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    Can anyone confirm if Kontakt 5 and 32Lives still work?
     
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