Not looking for any detailed explanation right now. I'll ask around when the time comes to upgrade from a 2012 mini. When I got the mini, only time I used migration assist moving from a '07 macbook. I know nothing about configuring it to do particular stuff, or if it even does that at all.

If I wind up moving up to whatever next iteration Mac Studio or Mini is, I suppose a fresh install of all my audio software would be ideal. However, the logistics of having to round up and organize the literal re-install and authorizations of the mountain of audio related software I've accrued seems to me like it would be a full time months long hellish nightmare to me.

Installing programs like DAW or Komplete for example, they put folders all over the goddamn place in every nook and cranny on your system. That's all fine and dandy, but what about all the third party stuff and your own presets added over the years.... finding, sorting, separating out all that in order to then put it all back onto new system in the right places... I'd rather kill myself!

Being ignorant of the process... either using migration or clean install, is there an easy clean install process? Admittedly, I'm a geezer and my brain is full up.... can't fit any more info into it. If something has more than a few sentences about how to use it, my eyes glaze over and I've checked out, lol. Which is why I'd be like... fuck it, just hit OK on migration and have it do everything. I know people are somewhat divided on migration v clean install.

The mini does everything I'd ever need to do, and as of this moment, only reason I'd get a new machine is if it stopped working. But then again, at this point I may stop 'working' before having to get a new comp is even an issue, lol.

Thanks to all in advance

 

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Start fresh. Install Xcode so you have more robust options in Terminal. Also, you should consider using this as a great time to get RID of all the junk plugins you have installed and forgotten to remove. And things you thought you should have and do not use! Install what you need for certain, and then go one by one later as you encounter instances in old projects so you can load them without issue. Don't blanket install all your old junk. It will take you very little time to set things up again. But it will be done *right*.

Install all your needed plugins only. Run this in terminal. it will batch Codesign every plugin on the system (local volumes) besides AAX. You will only need to enter the root password 1 time for ALL plugins.

cd /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/

find . -name "*.bundle" -execdir sudo xattr -cr \;
find . -name "*.VST" -execdir sudo xattr -cr \;
find . -name "*.vst3" -execdir sudo xattr -cr \;
find . -name "*.component" -execdir sudo xattr -cr \;
find . -name "*.dpm" -execdir sudo xattr -cr \;

find . -name "*.bundle" -execdir sudo codesign -f -s - {} \;
find . -name "*.VST" -execdir sudo codesign -f -s - {} \;
find . -name "*.vst3" -execdir sudo codesign -f -s - {} \;
find . -name "*.component" -execdir sudo codesign -f -s - {} \;
find . -name "*.dpm" -execdir sudo codesign -f -s - {} \;

 

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My general rule is: try a migration.
If it doesn't work out well, then you go "Oh hell. I'll do a clean instead.'
No loss, except the time you used.

You can't do it in reverse - trying the clean first.

 

Yeah, that would be my default thing to do. Migrate, then make a clone of that new machine just to have, and if some software acts up, do a clean install of that particular offender. It's crossed my mind, probably erroneously, whether there'd be any migration issue when jumping from an intel to apple processor.

I wonder.... doesn't cloning software, which I do use, and possibly time machine backups, ignore copying all those 'garbage' files lying around on the machine that may cause issues? If so, I'd guess migration does same?

 

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Thanks. I'll save this for future reference

Yeah. When I first got into buying third party plugs I was like, oh wow, Waves are selling really cheap, only to find down the road you gotta pay much more down the road if not compatable with a new OS. So they probably won't work making the jump to apple silicon. I won't bother with those anymore, heh.

 

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I am in the process of putting all the s(*t back onto my old Pro tower 5.1 from 2010. it's a dual Xeon processors @ 2.4 ghz. 13 years old and it smokes my 2017 mbp in terms of stability and usefulness for mixing. I have Serum, Falcon, Omnisphere all running fine. The Access Virus plugin runs better on this cheese grater than ever did on my laptop. In about 2 days of screwing around, but I do not own all that many FX plugins.

I am holding off on pulling the trigger for either a m1 or studio for as long as I can. I do not want to buy one day, and the next they release something unannounced and the m1 mini is 200$ the day after I spend 1200. Big projects concern me. I do not think I will buy into the new expensive m1 tech for awhile. A 2019 Intel Pro would be good with simply audio for about, forever. I have more RAM requirements than I do CPU. These machines will also become reasonable sometime soon. I can't imagine trying to even play online poker on a 13 year old pc. Which would be important, needing a new machine to "migrate" to ASAP.

 

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Yeah. It's my totally pulled outta my ass opinion that computers became powerful enough to be capable of making any kind of music the home user could possibly want for around the past 15 years at least already, heh.