Hey Guyz,

I have a problem With my Behringer FCB 1010 controller And Amplitube 4.9.
I have edited The midi messages for working Amplitube and fcb 1010 with the irig midi 2
when i push one swith on behringer i get 5 sec latency.
How can i fix this problem?
thnx in advance Greetz Peter

 

Peter, hi,
Not an accomplished user of Amplitube myself nor in any way acquainted with the Behringer FCB 1010, off the bat this comes across to me as an ASIO problem. Apparently this article aims to address the issue you have:
https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-fix-the-latency-in-amplitube
Ik hoop dat je er wat aan hebt *)
* Common knowledge of Dutch language, you know...

 

HI Aileron,
It's not a sound problem but MidiLatency when i push the pedal the midi message comes 5 sec later.
that's the problem , the latency for the sound is Ok

Greetz Peter

 

OK well best of luck sorting this one. Luckily there's characters making up this forum way more knowledgeable than me dealing with any issues known to man. Welcome, Peter, to the carnival.
Ze hebben er verstand van en er valt ook nog wel te lachen hier *)
* More Dutch, or I hope so, anyway...

 

Thnx @Aileron.

I've tried in the meantime also with ASIO4ALL but the results are the same, could it be that i have a midi cable from 6 meters?
if so? then i buy a shorter one.
thnx in advance
Greetz Peter

(@Aileron bedankt voor de zoverre ondersteuning ,ik stel het prijs , ik hoop dat ik de behringer wat sneller krijg )

 

I doubt if it's the MIDI cable length at issue here. I've got a Rocktron MIDImate foot controller and use 25' cables with it routinely, and it switches instantaneously.
You never mentioned how the pedal is connected to the computer. I'm assuming PC because you did mention ASIO4All. The ASIO driver wouldn't have anything to do with a MIDI delay if that's indeed the problem.
There's some things you can do to see if the delay is the pedal, the MIDI interface, or Amplitube.
If you have a piece of MIDI gear (rack effect?) you can connect to the FCB1010 to test and see if you get a similar delay, that would help you isolate if it's the pedal or not.
You could also install a MIDI monitor to examine the MIDI messages coming from the pedal which would help to identify if the latency is caused by whatever MIDI interface you have (or the pedal in case you don't have any MIDI gear to test with)
It could also be that Amplitube itself is the culprit. I've not used MIDI to control Amplitube before, so I'd have to do some research on that.

 

@digitaldragon Hi Dragon , I've updated the firmware of the Irig Midi 2 , to version 1.12, and installed MidiOX to monitor the midi traffic between the berhinger fcb 1010 And the Irig.
for further results I will let you know.
Greetz Peter

 

Sounds good. Wasn't aware that iRig was the/a MIDI interface. I think testing with MidiOX will point you in the right direction. Honestly I don't think it's the FCB1010. The MIDI foot controllers are pretty simple in their logic and setup. But testing will prove/disprove that.

 

Here I have a video Capture how Amplitude it's behave

i hope you'll understand it a little better
the MidiOX and Firmware wasn't the point.
it's a mystery to me
greetz Peter

 

I get "Sorry, this video does not exist"

I don't understand what you've done with MidiOX, I assumed you were going to use it as a diagnostic tool. Did you try to use MidiOX to display the MIDI program changes? Does MidiOX show the program change instantly, or is there a delay there?
Too bad the iRig firmware didn't do the trick for you!

Googling, I found this:
https://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?p=1352133
There's some information in there about Preset switching. It's inside Ableton, though.

Are you hosting Amplitube in a DAW, or standalone mode?

If you look here, the guy is talking about a custom firmware chip for the FCB1010 which fixes several bugs. I wonder if that's what's going on here? Also they were talking about disabling SysEx messages being sent with program changes which seems to me that would definitely cause a delay.

https://orphicaudio.wordpress.com/2011/11/28/fcb1010-uno-firmware-with-amplitube-3-7/

Sorry, just throwing some ideas out there. Maybe give you some ideas. I'm not a FCB1010 owner, myself.

 

@digitaldragon problem solved, do you know what the problem was?
my laptop is a pentium and cant handle version 4 only <version 3
the responce was quick on version 3. but it has directx
greetz Peter

 

@digitaldragon But now i have a other problem.
i have a Behringer FCB 1010 , Irig Midi 2 and Ampltube 4.
I have made the preset buttons on the pedal in CC 11 till 20.
but If i go to global midi in AT4 and i push the pedal 1(CC11) it woun't learn the midi signal from behringer.
the Volume Pedal (CC7) works like a charm.
(he only learns midi from the expression pedals CC27 and CC7)
Please help me with this one.
Greetz Peter

 

@Peter Bomhof I think you need to use Program Change MIDI Command versus Control Change MIDI Commands. There should be a way to map the FCB1010 foot switch you're using to do Program Changes instead.
This is how my Rocktron works by default. For amp channel switching on my Marshall DSL40CR, I had to set the Rocktron to send CC instead (actually in addition to PC) and that was configurable so I'd assume you can do the inverse with the FCB1010.
In my experience, CC is usually used for parameter control, such as a volume or wah. I found it unusual that the Marshall required CC to switch channels, but it's not actually changing a preset, but a parameter of the amp. Maybe that's Marshall's thinking anyways.
Hope this helps to steer you in the right direction.

 

@digitaldragon yes i understand but in amplitube is it different. i send you some screenshots than can you see how its build.
you see on picture 1 , PC value those are the bank changes, at Picture 2 you see the CC values everything thats off i can't assign it with midi learn but as you can see CC 7 an CC 27 those are the expression pedals they are correct.
i hope you understand my message in this post
Greetz Peter.

Picture 1 : https://ibb.co/CtkffHJ

picture 2 : https://ibb.co/rsz7csq

Setup editor for behringer FCB 1010 with the right values :https://ibb.co/M2mW53X
And ofcourse the spreadsheet with the total values :https://ibb.co/r2JgtXN

i hope it helps..

 

Last edited: Nov 4, 2019