Kontakt 5 crashes on start up. Can anyone help?

Discussion in 'Kontakt' started by WHMedia, Dec 21, 2016.

  1. WHMedia

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    Ever since new kontakt 5 updates have come out past v. 5.5.2, i cannot get it to work on my computer. I've updated windows 7, made sure all that bullshit was done and still everytime i install it just crashes on start up and my DAW doesnt even recognize it, though it recognizes other Native Instruments plugins.

    any advice?

    here's screen capture video of what exactly is happening.
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/xwsx32aphrfljig/kontakt.avi?dl=0
     
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  3. WHMedia

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    Damn, No one?
     
  4. Tarkus

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    I am sorry to hear this, I wish I could help but I can not get past version 5.52 either, no matter what I try.
    If I figure it out, I will be glad to help.
     
  5. Pinkman

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    Try going to C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Native Instruments\Kontakt 5\Db and deleting the files inside:

    Factory.kdb.cache
    kontaktdb2
    kontaktdb2_Lock

    As far as the plugin goes make sure you have the x86 and x64 versions being scanned by the appropriate version of your DAW.

    If you have placed the .dlls correctly and they are k'd properly, try renaming Kontakt5.dll to something like Kontkat5TEST and scanning again. Then change the name back and scan one more time.

    If you're using the NO INSTALL_SYMLINK version right click the Kontakt5.dll and go to Properties and see if there's an option to Unblock the file.
     
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  6. Ellin

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    5.5.2 gave me problems too (Win 8.1), so I go back to the 5.5.0 (the most stable) and 5.6.5 in the same pc.
     
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  7. Kloud

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    What the fault module name etc? Couldn't read it from vid
    Sometimes gives u some kind of info like Kontakt 5.exe or MSVCR120.dll etc that gives an idea of where problem lies.
    If u on windows 7 make sure u have latest service pack as contains some drivers etc.
    Could b a few things but most likely something simple. Try basic stuff like running as admin etc.
    Sometimes is driver issues or Visual C++ etc or can b soundcard/driver issues or midi issues etc and looks like App itself crashing though u say DAW not picking up .dll either.
    That probably also a good place 2 look. If your DAW not recognising .dll then something else not right.
    Try extracting latest .dll from installer or renaming like pinkman and Ellin suggesting.
    DAW should pick up .dll regardless of other installation issues etc unless of course it not installed in right place etc.
    Could be a couple of things not quite right.
    Fresh install after cleaning relevant locations quite often helps but won't always if you are missing run-time components needed for App etc.
    Hope you manage to sort it out :mates:
     
  8. spacetime

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    try launching ableton in admin mode, then open kontakt
     
  9. G String

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  10. WHMedia

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    thank you. all of you, for your very helpful responses. i have tried all of the above but to no avail. I am currently trying to uninstall and reinstall the runtimes to see if maybe that does anything, i will report back on that.

    this is the details of the crashing application. thank you all so very much. even if nothing comes of it, i am very thankful. this is a great community to be a part of.


    Problem signature:
    Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
    Application Name: Kontakt 5.exe
    Application Version: 5.6.5.13
    Application Timestamp: 583ed389
    Fault Module Name: Kontakt 5.exe
    Fault Module Version: 5.6.5.13
    Fault Module Timestamp: 583ed389
    Exception Code: c0000005
    Exception Offset: 0000000000bb22d2
    OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
    Locale ID: 1033
    Additional Information 1: 408b
    Additional Information 2: 408bde3fa77cb74a654c33771161c4ec
    Additional Information 3: 750d
    Additional Information 4: 750db5b89c6955e8a9400bf871c2b1a3

    Read our privacy statement online:
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    If the online privacy statement is not available, please read our privacy statement offline:
    C:\Windows\system32\en-US\erofflps.txt
     
  11. WHMedia

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    i have tried uninstalling with revo uninstaller pro, which scans the registry as well and deletes all traces of an application.

    i did the regular install of kontakt 5 and i also tried the NO INSTALL_SYMLINK, to see if that would work. Again, the same crash.

    My daw, which is samplitude, wont even recognized it. i try to open it on standalone and it crashes.

    also, i use FLStudio and it crashes FLStudio as well.

    Thanks so much, guys.
     
  12. WHMedia

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    i also just tried renaming the kontakt.dll to kontakt5test and then back. tested both. it still did not recognize kontakt. however, if i migrate back to 5.5.0 it works fine, but then i can't get the latest samples and libraries to work cause it needs the newest version of kontakt. Very frustrating as i have had problems in the past and thought i was over this.
     
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    Do you have Desktop Manager and/or Aero Turned off?

    in the video it looked like custom work was done for extra performance. Did you disabled some drivers too?
     
  14. G String

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  15. Pinkman

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    Install both the x86 and the x64 C Runtimes. The links are heavily used so if you don't get through, try again. They all work.

    Also keep in mind, one user on the NI forum says Kontakt started working after he UN-installed 2015 C++ libraries.

    EDIT - I just noticed you said that reverting to 5.5.0 works fine. This has me thinking that there is a problem in the way you are installing the current version causing it to crash. Which release are you using to update Kontakt?

    I'd recommend trying the 5.6.5 Fixed No Keygen...No Install_Sym Link version. Once you have it, navigate into the folders till you see the actual files then replace the existing 5.5.0 installation with the 5.6.5 files.
    Do this for every folder in the 5.6.5 version excluding the AAX if you don't do ProTools.
    Make sure the 5.6.5 Program Files go into 5.5.0 Program Files.
    Make sure the 5.6.5 Program Files (x86) go into 5.5.0 Program Files (x86)
    x64 and x86 Kontakt.dlls aren't marked any different from each other. Only the folders containing them, so make sure you get the x86 in your 32-bit VST folder and the x64 in your 64-bit VST folder.
    So on for all directories in the 5.6.5.

    Apologies if you've done this already and find this useless. Just being thorough.
     
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  16. WHMedia

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    both are disabled, yes.

    also, i have disabled some windows services via black vipers suggestions for tweaking for performance. i did try to re-enabled them to see if there was a difference and there wasn't. still no kontakt.
     
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  18. WHMedia

    WHMedia Guest

    i have used that release "5.6.5 Fixed No Keygen...No Install_Sym Link version" to no avail. and yes, i have them in the appropriate folders for 32bit and 64bit plugins. no apologies necessary, i am willing to try anything and everything. thank you for even giving a go at it.
     
  19. WHMedia

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    this is weird, right?
     
  20. G String

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    Take 3 pints of fresh goat's blood, mix it with the semen of 4 tree-frogs, add the desiccated foreskin of an orangutan and then spread it all over yourself under the light of a harvest moon.

    After 6 months detention in a secure unit, NI will have released another update. Bingo!
     
  21. WHMedia

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    .....thats a wednesday for me, though orangutan foreskin is a bit flimsy, still it does the trick. goats blood i have i droves, im into black metal. give me something hard. be right back, i have to vomit. i save it for later and bathe in it after i've smoked enough dmt to meet god and slap him in the face.
    stay on topic.
     
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