hey guys..!
This plugin is super dangerous and, in fact, unusable when 32x oversampling is selected in real-time or in offline mode. I did the test with a bass in studio one, Reaper and Protools. It just doesn't work, such a big hum and artifacts killing the song. this is a BIG BIG bug. I was unable to render just one bar inside Reaper.
"PLEASE BE CAREFUL" and check it by yourself, don't use it till they fix it. The weird thing is at 32X without loading a preset.... ummmmm kind of work.
btw I'm on Mac, Catalina
peace \m/

*******TURN THE VOLUME DOWN LOW********
https://filebin.net/7at7hfnv8gk4ot60/KAZROG_AVALON.mp4

 

32x oversampling sounds super dangerous, period.

 

Reaper can already oversample natively, would oversampling the oversample cause a glitch in the Matrix?

 

Oh my god noooooo!!! please don't start a Daw war o OS war. it's not about that. please don't.
i just made 4 bar loop with a random sub, duplicated 4 times used different settings in order to listen to them outside the Daw, but this little guy by Default off-line rendering is 32X by default. i'm not a plugin doctor freak.
I just can't imagine if someone use this 4 o more times in a full session and make an off-line rendering. how hard will be to detect the problem.
dropping some light for those who produce or mix loud and use off-line rendering. 1- can ruin your track or 2- can burn your speaker out of the sh**t or both
i just wanna help! if you still wanna use it, before use it i would change the default settings "off-line 32x to 2X" just in case to be safe to go.

 

I had the same result, but if it was not for this thread i would not even have checked it. I usually will not go with 32X oversampling anyway, unless it is a clipper (standard clip)

Maybe it is CPU, my mac is old. But maybe it could be something missed by the releaser/s? 32X does the same car crash sounding digital clipping with any option, including init preset. But Logic throws sync error/mismatched sample rate so quickly, it does not get a chance to blast me with high volume event. Stuff like this is why i almost always have a safety limiter on my master.

 

you're right Sr. i don't know why by default 32X off-line. scary and actually i was not that wowww i do prefer to try it again when everything is fixed.

 

In Logic, the plugin shows 32X for offline, by default; but it says on that same settings pane that offline is unsupported. (probably different per DAW)

 

Yeah me too but is so strange in my i9 just 1 sub no more plugins, that's why was easy to find for me, but in S1 6.2. Reaper, Cubase 9 and PT in 2 computers hummmmm maybe it's just the medicine he he he. but i will not use yet

 

I'm on Reaper (Win) here and it's working perfectly fine (even at x32 OS). Dev will probably fix that in the next update.

 

for shure they are really good i love true dynamics and true iron.

 

Kazrog has said that in some systems, oversampling over 4x is not trustworthy right now, so you shouldn't use more than 4x for the time being. Some Mac systems with PT are also experiencing lagging when the GUI is shown. They are working on fixing these problems, and will release a v1.0.1 as soon as possible!

 

Version 1.0.1 - August 25, 2023

Resolved issues with sluggish GUI controls and meters, which affected some systems.
Resolved issues with oversampling and filter behavior; introduced adaptive oversampling quality.
Resolved issue with SC Listen toggle creating stuttering audio in Logic Pro X and Cubase 12 (possibly other hosts as well.)

 

Hey Kazrog,

How difficult can it be to find this out?
v 1.0.1 highest shelf fully up, highest vs without OS:

BTW, the more curved one is without.

Just for the books, they changed the OS options to:
• Draft = no oversampling
• Good = medium oversampling
• Best = high oversampling

 

check True 252 too, the OS sometimes even affect the lowest frequency band. It's not consistent, but you can try by cycling through the presets at 4x OS and you'll see on certain preset, the lowest band is boosting but the graph showing attenuate. Like is said it's not consistent, sometimes it happens, sometimes it's not. I was assuming, it was PD at first, but now the Avalon just added more doubt to the plugin.

 

Kazrog definitely has great analog modelling but for some insane reason they have issues related to oversampling in EVERY release. Whether that be oversampling setting not saving or just general bugs relating to it.

At this point they should just use ADAA
https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jatin/Notebooks/adaa.html

It is such a genuine shame for such a promising company drop the ball in almost every release due to some easily resolvable issue.
Kazrog Kclip 3 has an issue in an unrelated way; many of the algorithms distort WAY too much. Why would I want a stompbox-like effect in a multiband mastering clipper? A soft germanium clip would be beautiful, but it just shreds the signal beyond belief.

If by some miracle Kazrog sees this: please invest more time into fine tuning your plugins beyond the base analog modelling & UI.

 

Curious thread. Because i experienced crashing on my DAW with 32x Oversampling with other Kazrog plugins (True 252 and True Iron). Even stopped using those plugins because even though they sound good, this instability makes them unusable on a regular basis for me. Hope they fix it soon

 

I declare War, Mixcraft 10 and Windows works with most plugin including this one. There were bugs and they have updated the plugin.

 

Could you tell me please which DAW? i have a really nice experience and results with true dynamics and true iron and with the synth warmer, i sold kclip and synth warmer. i like more standardClip or Clipped-max

 

Why the need to over sample in the first place? Why not just run your sessions at 96Khz or better. Then the there is no real need for oversampling in the first place.

 

You'd need to run at least at 176,4/192kHz (4x OS) if not higher. But running all plugins at this SR costs more CPU than upsampling a few. And at an even higher SR you will run into the problem that not all plugins are compatible with it (and I'm not speaking of Waves only).