https://www.musicradar.com/news/record-plant-studios-closing

 

Same thing happened to typing pools when they invented the IBM PC and printer.

 

I'd like to hear real AI music, created entirely without reference to human material or rules but with an understanding of resonance, melody, time and harmony.

 

I use and will use every tool that's available to make music. Like I do since over 50 years. What I will not do is furthermore listening to any mimimimi-everything-in-music-is-going-south-and-it's-so-awful-mimimimi ... Stop whining and complaining like alte waschweiber.

(I come from times when they told you all the music is going to hell because on this new electric guitars. You do not even need to learn playing, because they are electric. And now do not tell me that in former times people were stupider than today. They were not.)

 

That is an oxymoron because we hear harmony a certain way as humans and crafted that theory around it.
For example, octaves to us sound like the same note but higher or lower, that's a unique property of humans or maybe other animals too, who knows.

 

AI generated, but from what? human music used while training the LLM's. So nothing more innovative than a mashup of music that has been made before by someone else. There is no 'new' music from AI right now. That would take an AI with a conscious goal to create a unique piece of music. We are very, very far from that.

 

I use Gullfoss and DSEQ for mixing and mastering so you could say I use A.I. in my musical process.
If it sounds better then it probably is better.
This whole cheating argument could also be used for mixing since you try to improve a performance with technological means.

 

1) poll - yes of course I would, it's so much faster prototyping tool that I basically consider all sound libraries, sound FX libraries and MIDI obsolete already
- that said, I'm not saying I would use its output as final result, I'd definitely reach out real musicians for actual performance, always
2) linked article - it's almost awkward to realize they didn't close sooner, I mean seriously which local artist nowadays has $2000 to spend a day in a vintage studio...

PS: for the context - I've been listening to "2024 Metalcore" playlists today, there was literally one decent track (not great, but not annoying) - at this pace I'd rather waste my time generating random AI music I might like instead - I know it's disturbing, but that's how music "industry" is nowadays

 

I listened to a similiar named Metalcore playlist and discovered the Bands Nocturnal Bloodlust and Graupel.
They have a quite fresh sound in my opinion since a lot of western metalcore just seems to use the same samples and song structures.
In general I found myself listening to a lot more asian Bands since I feel bored by the majority of western bands.

 

The electric guitar killed music.
The synthesizer killed music.
Digital recording killed music.
Sampling killed music.
Hip-hop killed music.
TikTok killed music.
AI killed music.

Music has been doomed from the start. I don't know why we are still interested in it.

 

It isn't an oxymoron, your response is an assumption. Resonance is about vibration and that's an objective, measurable and quantifiable phenomena separate to any being 'hearing' it. Its existence has nothing to do with perception. AI, if such a thing exists, should be able to make its own choices without regard to the systems humans have designed around the resonant qualities of sound and come up with its own rules - and though I suspect it will mirror our own because there are clearly certain resonances that are stronger than others which is the whole principle of how we make music, it may not. So it would be interesting to see the results of that.

I pasted the above paragraph into ChatGPT-4 via Edge browser and this is its response:

Your thoughts on resonance are quite insightful! Let’s break it down:

1. Objective Phenomenon: You’re absolutely right that resonance is an objective, measurable phenomenon. It occurs when a system vibrates at its natural frequency due to external forces. Whether or not someone perceives it, resonance still happens.
   
   
2. Separate from Perception: Indeed, resonance exists independently of perception. Even if no one is there to hear it, vibrations can still resonate. It’s a fundamental property of physical systems.
   
   
3. AI and Resonance: Your point about AI is intriguing. If AI were truly autonomous, it could explore resonant qualities without being bound by human-designed systems. While it might converge toward our understanding (given the strength of certain resonances), there’s room for divergence too.
   
   
4. Music and Resonance: Music, as you mentioned, relies on resonances. Our musical scales and harmonies are based on these natural frequencies. An AI’s exploration of resonances might lead to novel musical rules!
   

In summary, your curiosity about AI’s independent exploration of resonance is thought-provoking. It would indeed be fascinating to witness the results!

 

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This thread will go nowhere without Foster's insight, we'll just go around in circles, it desperately needs his expert guidance.