Is Rap Criminogenic?

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  1. genophyte

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    i dont grasp this reply.

    rap/hip hop being criminogenic in all of its variations from start to now would have to mean that all parts that had been borrowed from other musical genres and business formats that make up rap/hip hop are also criminogenic.

    putting that particular word aside , and focusing on lyricism and the surroundings that influences individuals to write them i think would be a better lane. criminogenic in this sense paints things like wordplay ,analogy ,tautology as baked entirely into violent rap with no separation from other forms.


    speaking as a person who has spent a good chunk of their youth in and around the hood/projects/ghetto ,i can honestly say there are gangbangers that listen to nothing but soul, funk ,r&b ,freestyle ,juke,electro ,detroit house, bmore gutter.

    it isnt some sort of ouroboros ...if anything the original context of the ted talk is part of a larger conversation of identity politics and racial inequalities .

    i can be rather sure there are many non-americans here that frequent this forum who's outlook on americans views on race,ethnicity ,nationalism to be weird or even obsessive .



    plus TBH there are rappers that do incite violence under the guise of activism and propaganda who are far worse than your typical drug rapper
     
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  2. Moogerfooger

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    Most popular rap is trite IMO. The “intelligent” stuff is mainly liberal leaning. Very rare to hear rappers with a conservative voice because most of them are stuck on the federal welfare plantation.
     
  3. blaqmatic

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    As soon as you get the "Shit" out of your mouth. :rofl:
     
  4. black.afrika.zulu.x

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    Right, and most serial killers and Nazis listen to opera and classical music. :disco:

     
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  5. TonyG

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  6. genophyte

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    sure i guess if you are assuming im referring to specific chronological points in time , but you kinda really lost me with your reply again.
     
  7. black.afrika.zulu.x

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    I was agreeing with you that some of the baddest gangsters don't even listen to rap. Perhaps, authorities should start worrying when somebody starts getting into opera and classical music a bit too much...its only a matter of time before they go on a killing spree or start committing war crimes...
     
  8. genophyte

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    so what is the point of this thread?
     
  9. Herr Durr

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    when you run out of IQ points.. just go lower than low.... no words for you...well maybe.. "despicable"

    everything you are seeing going down.. "ooh ooh that smell..." :chilling:
     
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  10. black.afrika.zulu.x

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    Is rap criminogenic?
     
  11. genophyte

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    thats uh way too broad of a musical genre to use with that specific word...you might wanna specify cause this seems to be the equivalent of "what isnt black metal"
     
  12. black.afrika.zulu.x

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    This relates to that YouTube video.
     
  13. ICWC

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    Race and Cultural Diversity in American Life and History

    https://www.coursera.org/learn/race-cultural-diversity-american-life
    1. Introducing the Key Concepts and Social Challenges
    2. Exploring Attitudes to Race and Identity
    3. What Is Race
    4. Race and American Identity
    5. Fear of Multiethnic Democracy
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    1. Race- The Power of an Illusion
    2. Race in the Foundation of American Society
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  14. TonyG

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    Was Fidel Castro ( your avatar) a tyrant who tore a once-beautiful country apart and sent its finest citizens into exile or the George Washington of his country? Is rap criminogenic? All depends on who is answering the question.
     
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  15. black.afrika.zulu.x

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    Cuba was an American brothel, Fidel kicked out the pimps and confiscated the United Fruit Company, Standard Oil, Texaco, etc. For that, the crime of nationalization, he had to be punished. That's all. Some of the Spanish settlers / colonists - collaborators with the American pimpocrcacy - left in protest, and relocated to Miami where they continue to long for the days when Cuba was an American brothel.

    HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!

    REST IN PEACE COMMANDATE!

    And no, George Washington was a child-raping, sex-slaver... *thumbs down*
     
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  16. Judge Dredd

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    Seeing how often you use this, it should be your avatar, mate. :rofl:
    Right click and save image as:shalom:

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    And for the record, where ever I see you do the 'nasty', I'm automatically going to give a like to the person on the receiving end of your childish anger.
    I advise the less emotional members here do the same to negate this bitter silliness. :yes:
     
  17. TonyG

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    The Judge has pronounced his sentence. :goodpost:It could have been a harsher sentence but in 2002 the Supreme Court prohibited the execution of the mentally retarded.
     
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  18. Herr Durr

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    slam dunk the fools... oh snap you made my day...:rofl:

    in yo' 'matic face
     
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  19. genophyte

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    the OP lacks context entirely and comes off as a flame/troll bait post to be honest.

    with context





    this would have been the proper video for the post
     
  20. TonyG

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    I just noticed that whenever that @blaqmatic guy gives me a "dislike" I get a hard on just like I used to when I was in my teens. Let me tell you, it is better than Viagra.:headbang: Me luv ya long time.


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