Is possible copy the stereo Image?

I was trying to copy the stereo image in Ozone. but i dont think thats the right way.

Someone have a better option?

 

TDR SlickEQ M has this feature.

 

wow, thank you im going to try it.
I was thinking more in like copy like the amount of each band.

 

Can you rephrase the question? Do you mean you want to imitate the frequency spectrum and volume of Mid and Sides individually? Frequency spectrum matching? TDR SlickEQ M, Fabfilter Pro-Q3, Newfangled Audio EQuivocate, etc has frequency matching.

Edit: But beware - if you copy the M/S spectral balance of a commercial track you will essentially "alter the mix", since the commercial track is a completely different beast than yours.

 

Last edited: Aug 5, 2024

For example:

when i finished mixing and mastering a track i compare the track with other references and i notice that the stereo image its really diferent.

Lately i tried to copy the stereo image with Tonal Balance
I just let Tonal balance listen the Sides and not the mid. So i can create a spectrum reference, but only for the stereo image
So then in Ozone i tried to replicate with only the stereo image with the reference in my mix.

Its similar when in ozone you try to copy the eq from a reference song, but in this case only for the sides.

i hope you can understand this hahaha

 

If you have access to stems try to work with stereo at the mixing stage

 

Waiting until you start thinking about Ozone makes it more difficult to get a good result because it is already summed. You wouldn't sum every channel without any EQ, wait until you mix, and then stick an EQ on the 2 bus expecting it to be a miracle worker.

if @OP you like izotope anyway, you should test out using izotope Insight 2. You put their Relay plugin on each channel, and it reports back to "the mothership plugin" Insight similar to Neutron; but just data for visualization and metering. It's a lot lighter on CPU than it sounds.

These "nice ideas for features no-one else thought of before" are often a tipoff that you are doing something wrong. Otherwise someone would have already needed a plugin to fix it. Or coded one, even if you didn't.

 

I never seen an automatic process for stereo image.
Try this "by hand", it is free :
https://www.izotope.com/en/products/ozone-imager.html

 

Maybe I can't explain myself well or my English is too bad. hahaha
So im going to use google translator:

My goal is to copy the stereo image of a reference song

So I created a profile in Tonal Balance of just the "sides" of the reference song

like this: https://ibb.co/ZHNgzS5

 

I honestly don't mean this to sound flippant but... why not just use your ears. Get a widening tool, listen to your reference and then match it.

 

It's a copyright infringement! You will be sued!

 

Thank you this really help me, i was thinking the same.

 

More than that : you can copy frequency but not instruments.
So you may get some "fluctuating" stereo image on some instruments.

Like guitar mids/high mids moving back/forth.
Basically what some ppl said earlier : you need to do that at mixing level.
At track/mastering level, you can only adjust the whole mix, even by bands.

One solution (may be) could be using an "unmixer" (RipX ...) on reference song to get stems.
And apply spectrum AND stereo widening matching on your tracks.

But to me, it is a lot more work than simply doing A/B at mix level. Or even using multiband stereo tool on master.
Ozone can do it (Imager module).

 

since there is multiband imaging, thats a rather difficult task you set yourself out to do.

 

I also wondered if there was such a tool to help me get my stereo image close to my reference when attempting to master my own tracks, the thing that might help you is a plug-in by “Mastering The Mix” called REFERENCE, it can show you the stereo image of a reference track and your track side by side and help to demonstrate how to compare the stereo width of your production to industry-standard tracks. REFERENCE is designed to help you compare the stereo width of your production to professionally mastered tracks. First, load it as the final plugin on your master channel. Next, drag and drop a professionally mastered song that you admire into REFERENCE. Play back your track, switch between your mix and the reference track, paying close attention to how the stereo image compares. Once you have a clear idea of how your track stacks up against the reference, you can start making adjustments to enhance its stereo width.
https://www.masteringthemix.com/blo...es-in-stereo-width-and-imaging-when-mastering
Hope this helps...

 

Last edited: Aug 3, 2024

With TDR PRISM, Voxengo SPAN PRO, you can view and compare your music with other tracks via import or sidechain. You can set to view only the MID/SIDE, among others. SIDE = stereo image. Also HOFA.IQ-Analyser.

If you can't find it, just use a plugin, like Voxengo MSED or TBPRO ISOL8, put it before the analyzer and you can only view/analyze the SIDE part.

What I recommend is that apart from actually seeing/listening to the SIDE, you can see it. How? Well, with some Goniometro analyzer or try MELDA MULTIANALYZER, use the stereo part and familiarize yourself with it.