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  1. Davman

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    Okay I did it! it says that there are 227 free tone models as well as the usual models.
    Basically if I can do it your cat can do it. Here is a link to my modified Library.db file for anyone who wants the 227 downloaded user profiles. Please back up your own Library.db file and use at you own risk though it is working okay for me.

    https://mega.nz/file/LloEkRDJ#mar9TdMP7L8JG_exaM9yVuN4K2bmw2R5prfEZymF1_I
     
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  2. xorome

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    Fantastic job you guys!
     
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  3. Davman

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    bwzrd is a genius. I have only integrated one amp file. I don't know if all three need to be merged with the current Library.db file?
     
  4. Davman

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    I imported all of three of the .csv files into my Library.db which now shows 227 downloaded user profiles in all there are 1248 amps and stomp boxes showing. I changed 2022_09_29-2022_10_02.csv and 2022_10_03-2022_10_20.csv to tonemodels1.csv and tonemodels2.csv before importing them using import table from csv file. I guess I only needed to import the ToneModels.csv because merging that was all that was needed for the 227 user profiles to show up?
     
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  5. zib

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    I'm still a newbie.
    I've downloaded only 1 file : Library.db and put it here :
    C:\Users\name of computer\Documents\IK Multimedia\TONEX\Library.db
    Do I need to do something else ? I just have to create presets based on each "new" profile ?
    227 Free Tone Models + 1020 premium Tone Models = 1247 models
     
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  6. Davman

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    No, it means that you have what I have. However bwzrd mentions 1400 tone models uploaded to date. I don't know if he means 1400 user profiles downloaded from ToneNet? If so I am missing a lot.

    The new user profiles were added to the bottom of the list of the user profiles which I already had. You do not need anything else to use any of the downloaded or official amps and stomp boxes.
     
  7. zib

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    and the preset/profile is a bit difficult to understand.
    In Amplitube, I don't see the presets only the profiles... in ToneX I see the presets
     
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  8. Davman

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    I'm wondering what will happen if I rename the two remaining.csv files to ToneModels.csv? Will they overight the current tonemodels.csv file. By destroying what is already there? Or will they in turn add their amps onto the current tonemodels.csv file? I guess I will find out tomorrow.
     
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  9. zib

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    Tonex Max 1.02 and Amplitube 5.5.1 on sister site ! Max 1.0.2 is bigger than 1.0.1
     
  10. Davman

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    I can't say. I have not upgraded Amplitude 5 to the TONEX version yet. But I have to be honest, I downloaded presets for S-gear 2 and I prefer the sounds that I am getting from that than the ones from TONEX, Though it is still early days.
     
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  11. bwzrd

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    Hey folks, so if it all works correctly you should have 1300 user tone models or so. Now it's the morning here I will do a proper tutorial so you can all get the most out of these files.
     
  12. bwzrd

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    Ok so the first thing you will need is SQLite Browser which you can get here for free https://sqlitebrowser.org/

    Next you need the CSV files which are essentially just a list of the models that have been uploaded to ToneNet. I have uploaded them to a github https://github.com/brknwzrd/ToneXLib/tree/main each CSV file contains models uploaded between the dates indicated in the file name, this is due to upload file size limits on github. You will need to repeat the process for each CSV to get the maximum number of models.

    Once you have SQLite installed you'll want to open you Library.db

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    Head over "Browse Data" and check out the ToneModels table. You will need to check where your "Version" column is located as depending on which version of ToneX you started with this column could be located in location "B", ie the second column, or potentially at the end. If your version location doesn't match you will need to edit the CSV files in excel, google sheets, libre office, or similar to make sure the CSV has the column in the same order as your library.db

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    Next up you import a table from CSV.

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    Then choose one of the CSV files from the github. There are three important steps at this point. The first is that you alter the Table Name to ToneModels. The second is that you tick the box "Column names in first line". The third is that you head to the advanced drop down, and under "Conflict Strategy" select either "Ignore Row" or "Replace Existing Row". This is so that if you already have some of the models in your library the program doesn't freak out, SQL entries need to be unique. So if after the import you see a couple errors, don't worry that's normal, it just means you had a few duplicates.

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    If you named the Table Name correctly you should see this dialogue, if you don't, you probably mis-typed the table name.

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    Hit yes to all, if you head over to the Browse Data tab and select ToneModels, you should now see you have around 2400 models if you imported both the currently available CSV files. Once you're satisfied all of the models have been imported correctly hit the "Write Changes" button at the top button bar and that's it you're done. I think you will have to run the keygen again, then you can open ToneX.

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    After you hit write changes and close SQLite, it's normal for it to take a little while for ToneX to open as it reads the Library.db
     
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  13. bwzrd

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    Hey both, I uploaded the tutorial above, if you follow that you should have the full number of models. The important step you were missing is making sure on import you label the table name "ToneModels" each time. Hope this helps.
     
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  14. bwzrd

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    I will say, I find a lot of the sounds at default to be a bit mid scooped or "phasey" sounding. Even when I used my own custom IR inside of ToneX it didn't sound quite right. However if you turn off the cabs and use your own IRs outside of ToneX it sounds really good, maybe the new update has fixed these issues I'm not sure.
     
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  15. zib

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    Huge thanks for perfect tutorial Davman.

    Here are the changelogs for Amplitube and ToneX :

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    Dear AmpliTube 5 user,

    We want to let you know that AmpliTube 5 has been updated to version 5.5.1 for Mac/PC.
    This update improves TONEX performance within all versions of AmpliTube 5 including CS and coincides with the release of TONEX 1.0.2.
    Before launching AmpliTube 5.5.1 and testing the new release of TONEX, you’ll need to first update or install TONEX 1.0.2 for Mac/PC and have it running in the background. Once initiated in AmpliTube 5.5.1, TONEX can be closed and all new functionality will remain active.
    We recommend all AmpliTube 5 users update for the best experience.

    IK Multimedia

    Instructions

    To get updated on Mac/PC, launch the IK Product Manager, go to Manage My Products, and use the Update button next to AmpliTube 5.
    *To load the new TONEX model, install, authorize, and launch TONEX prior to launching AmpliTube 5.5.1.

    Changes from version 5.5.0:

    • Features the new TONEX improvements that enhance sound accuracy in Tone Models without the cabinet
    • Fixed an issue that could create inconsistencies in sound in TONEX Stomp Tone Models and AmpliTube stomp Tone Models
    • TONEX: Implemented gain reduction meter in the compressor module
    • General reliability improvements
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    Dear AmpliTube TONEX user,

    We want to let you know that TONEX has been updated to version 1.0.2 for Mac/PC.
    This update improves TONEX standalone performance and also its performance within all versions of AmpliTube 5 including CS, and coincides with the release of AmpliTube 5.5.1.
    We recommend all AmpliTube TONEX users update for the best experience.
    Before launching AmpliTube and checking out the new release of TONEX inside AmpliTube, you’ll need to first update or install AmpliTube 5.5.1. Once initiated in AmpliTube 5.5.1, TONEX 1.0.2 can be closed and all new AmpliTube TONEX functionality will remain active.

    IK Multimedia

    Instructions

    To get updated on Mac/PC, launch the IK Product Manager, go to Manage My Products, and use the Update button next to TONEX.

    Changes from version 1.0.1:

    • Fixed an issue that could cause inaccuracies when capturing Tone Models of Amps without a cabinet ("Amp" and "Stomp and Amp" Tone Models)
    • Improved by 30% the Advance Training timing
    • Added up and down arrows to browse Tone Model Amps and Cabs
    • Implemented gain reduction meter in the compressor module
    • Fixed an issue that could cause crashes when using TONEX as a plug-in inside a DAW
    • Fixed an issue that avoided sorting in ToneNET
    • General graphic improvements
    • General reliability improvements
     
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  16. zib

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    I tried S-Gear 2.7.1 for win but didn't find any presets that convincing. I must have missed something.
    Would you like to share your presets bwzrd ?
     
  17. Davman

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    Here are my S Gear 2 presets. You will probably find more in a Google search as it has been a while since I searched for some. Updated 21/10/22

    https://mega.nz/folder/e0xWBBDD#DTHNB-wDg-9uCduBeEkVEA
     
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    Great share Davman, many many thanks. I'll try S-Gear this afternoon (it's 11.49 am here).

    About ToneX. bwzrd's library is 70,932kb and mine 22,676kb. I'm jealous.
    I'm trying to follow bwzrd's tutorial but I failed twice importing csv to library.
    When I import tonemodels.csv, I have the message
    "there is already a table named ToneModels and an import into an existing table is only possible if the number of colums match".
    The easiest to me : would anyone mind sharing his updated ToneX library ?
     
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  19. Davman

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    I will attempt it later today. I need to finish some documents related to freeing myself from debt. I have just spent an hour in a phone queue because my storage heaters are not working and my living room is like a freezer. So I'm staying in my bedroom with my electric radiator since the council cannot fix my heaters until next week.
     
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    I tried to do it and it works fine but I don't even know what I already imported or not. Just a suggestion, how about just one person that has all the csv files and can do it fast, do it. The others just share the CSV file found. That one person earlier will do the import/write and share the "Library.db" file so everyone can have one standardize AudioSex custom database where everyone has everything. Can ignore this if this suggestion sounds stupid. Thanks.
     
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