IK Multimedia ToneX - Discussion topic

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  1. PifPafPif

    PifPafPif Rock Star

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    ToneJunkie (who played hundreds all tube amps) even said once he preferred some of his Kemper profiles to the original.

    Because he could tweak the dynamic response, like getting mids tighter or smoother.
    Or get a more modern tone from old amp OR the opposite.
    Even more.

    And he knows more about ANY tube amp than any of us here :wink:
     
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  3. NuncaNada

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    My thanks, Rodger. :like:
    Cya! :wink:
     
  4. PicPocLeHerisson

    PicPocLeHerisson Ultrasonic

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    Thank you so much !
     
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    I do wonder if there's a way for one of those setup files to simply update different tone models and add but not replace - but I have a feeling the setup file is more of a "just drop these files somewhere" and doesnt like alter the .db on a database level, which I WOULD NOT expect :)

    Are there instructions for how to manually put the image cache?

    again, this is amazing and thnk you
     
  7. PicPocLeHerisson

    PicPocLeHerisson Ultrasonic

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    Tones and presets are stored altogether in a unique "Library.db" file, that is in fact a mySqlLite database file.

    So if you update (=replace) your Library.db file, any of your previous presets will get lost.

    A distinction must be made between "tones" (the amp and cab fingerprints) and "presets" that store both tones and eq / comp/reverb settings.

    The workaround is to export your presets as .txp files, update library and then re-import them.
     
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  8. FREDERICO GOMES

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    For those who want to delve into mathematical data, see this link, where Kemper and QC are also compared.
    https://medium.com/@acolmiztli/an-mir-analysis-of-real-amp-versus-captures-and-profiles-8b5d4d415535
    My opinion. When using an AMPSIM, you hear AMP+CAB+MIC and not AMP+CAB as most people believe. If you want to have a live feel, I suggest using AMP + CAB (Ex. YORKAUDIO type with PRESET MIC ROOM or SUM) + BIG MONITOR (FR or multipurpose powered speakers), this will make it closer to the REAL AMP feel. The purpose would be to minimize the EFFECT of the MIC on the signal chain.
     
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  9. JTlawns

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    I wonder if there's a way to have some kind of setup.exe that does some real work? Not that ANYONE here should go to that length, what you all are doing is amazing, but how could look into making an installer that:

    - ONLY updates and doesnt replace things that already exists, whether it be presets OR tones
    - sets up the image cache
     
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  10. mr.personality

    mr.personality Producer

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    think i posted in this thread much earlier that i couldn't find the tonex. have legit A5 and i have found it, or it showed up with an update, though i am using the free version. i notice when i load a patch you can't click on the amp and have access to its controls like the modeled amps. i take it this is supposed to be like that as the tonex amps are captures of only one kind of tone so there's no amp knobs that can be messed with.

    with the tonex user library thing... haven't looked yet but is there some way to distinguish patches that'll work with the free version vs those that have amps unavailble in the freebie? can't stand loading sounds and keep getting the 'you don't own that device' thing all the time, heh.
     
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    Hi folks, has anyone found an Amplitube 5.5.1 torrent with a keygen that works for mac? I´m really interested in using Tonex inside Amplitube. Thanks.
     
  12. PifPafPif

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    @FREDERICO GOMES A lot of guitarists using digital modelers will get a class D solid state amp (like Seymour Duncan Power Stage) and a real cab.
    They only send IR to the FOH.

    i never seen someone happy with "neutral" IRs. Because it is impossible to capture a cab without mics.
    Real cab and solid state power amp is the only working solution for "amp in front of you" sound and feel, used for decades even on Line6 Vetta amps (big artists touring with it, like Fear Factory or Symphony X).

    Another reason why FRLR speakers are raising (F12M-150, Kemper Kone ...) to get the "amp in front" feel AND the diversity from different IRs at the same time.

    Because you don't need accuracy for the "amp in front of you" : it is just FEEL.

    With FRLR, you don't need to split your signal between IR to the FOH and "no cab".
    It is the same signal.

    Celestion F12M-150 can be mounted in any cab.
    And cost is very nice : 150 bucks

    There is a "french" offer here : 100 bucks only !
    https://www.toutlehautparleur.com/h...tion-f12m-150-triple-cone-8-ohm-12-pouce.html
     
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  13. zib

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    hi guys,
    my favorite profiles are all the KPA from "firepile",
    and he's "on fire" proposing brilliant Kemper adapted profiles
    https://www.tone.net/tonex/search/?q=
    Thanks Rodger and other members who have posted updated tones.
     
  14. FREDERICO GOMES

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    @PifPafPif
    Grateful for you are always interacting. The solution I chose to get the AMP feel was this Class D FRFR amplifier that was made by Homemade. It's a 400W amp with 4x6 (better performance than 1x12) + Driver + Bass Reflect. The finish was very good. Suitable for playing at home or live in a medium room without the FOH.
    When I quoted the MIC ROOM SETUP it was with the intention of giving the feeling that you are "hearing" the amplifier more naturally with more distant and higher range mics like the U47. But I understand when you say it doesn't look very good.
    And sorry for my English, it's not my native language.
     

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    Nice job Frederico !
    (Latin language here too)
     
  16. Jal_76

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    I understood that if I want to use library files people have shared (Ive downloaded the latest) I need to export my presets I've saved. Problem is I have about 150 of them and tonex only lets me choose one, not multiple...any workaround, I don't want to lose my presets, but want to use the latest library file :)
     
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    Not for the moment it seems. We'll have to wait for a next version. ToneX may support "drag and drop" or "batch import" of presets.
     
  18. Jal_76

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    That's what I feared. Well, have to wait wth library update then. Are there tonex max ik multimedia profiles also in the library files found here?
     
  19. JTlawns

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    I'm a little drunk, but couldn't you just do it the SQL way and open the old library.db, and import the missing entries from the newer library.db?
     
  20. Jal_76

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    Maybe I could if I knew how to. New to the forum, joined yesterday.
     
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