IEMs and Headphones

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  1. talkytina

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    I'm used to doing everything (production, mixing, mastering) on my Sennheiser HD600 & a Subpac. I bought an Etymotic ER4XR because I read a lot of good things about it & thought it might be easier to use when traveling. I figured it would be a good IEM to play around with before jumping on a Shure SE846. From the moment I plugged it into the Subpac, I got feedback right way. It wasn't volume dependent, just a noticeable constant hiss which I also got with another pair of earphones when I tested. When I plug the HD600 back in...zero hiss. The biggest problem was the sound. It's heavy in the mid-high to high region. So much so that when I bring the volume to a comfortable listening level, the bass is hardly heard or felt on the Subpac. I had to crank the Sub-pac dial up to 80% where the HD600 is normally around 40-50%.

    So do these ER4XR need break in period and do I need some type of software/plugin in order to tune the IEMs properly? I was expecting plug n play as I do not use any additional software with my HD600/Subpac.
     
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  3. realitybytez

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    i have zero experience with a subpac, but what you describe sounds like an impedance issue.
     
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    Because they are deep in the ear, you have to watch out for your hearing protection.
    In other words, they are a little quieter otherwise your hearing would be damaged.

    ER4XR - Technical specs

    Frequency response: 20Hz - 16KHz
    Both channels in the range 100Hz - 10kHz tuned to 1dB accuracy
    Isolation: 35-42dB
    Impedance: 45Ω
    Sensitivity: 98dB SPL @ 1kHz
    Max SPL: 122dB
    Manufactured and fine-tuned in the USA

    HD 600 - Technical specs
    • Dynamic
    • Open
    • Circumaural
    • Impedance: 300 Ohm
    • Sound pressure level: 97 dB
    • Frequency range: 12 - 39,000 Hz
    • Cabling from both headphones
    • 3 m cable with 3.5 mm jack connection
    • Weight without cable: 253 g
    • Weight with cable: 309 g
    • Including 6.3 mm adapter
     
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    Not my experience using them onstage, but hey! :dunno:
    I wonder how much the IEMs mentioned in the OP cost?

    edit: less than half the price of what I know of; I just checked.
    What amp is driving these IEMs?
    An amp?
     
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  6. talkytina

    talkytina Newbie

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    @BEAT16 I thought the same thing initially. But with the IEM I had to turn down the volume compared to the HD600. The ER4XR were noticeably louder than the cans. And like I said, especially in the upper regions.

    @Smooth Grooves I got them for $129 shipped from Adorama.

    So I was testing them on my home studio not a laptop. Basically the Subpac control box is connected to the phone plug of a TC Electronics Konnect 6. The HD600/IEM is connected to the phone plug of the Subpac control box. I didn't think I needed an amp since the headphones ran fine without one for the past few yrs.
     
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    No surprise, less ohm, higher max SPL.
     
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