i5 or i7? Main DAW = Studio One

mrrnr · May 10, 2012

dan said: ↑

Also did you not read? Amd just release the Opteron with 32 cores for Servers. Get it: X86
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Hi Dan,What Brand carries the Amd Opteron with 32 cores X86...?

I like to look Into this..

Thx
Rob

jack · May 11, 2012

Lukie said: ↑

Hi Jack yes there is price difference, you get what you pay for in this life.
It's like Cognac you buy a $2 bottle it will taste like Brandy, You buy $500 bottle it will taste like Cognac

@ Dan just Two questions why does my machine run a lot smoother when its running 64 bit and why does mates Amd system max out when I take projects round for him to work on when the cpu on my machine at 40-50%. And both systems are about the same spec
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I would compare it another way.. mostly you have to pay high amount to get latest (mostly small) bonus/feature.

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I hope jack got what he needed cause this looks like it's gonna dive into a nother 32/64bit argument.

The thing I don't get and thats why people talk of the capabilities of survers.
I don't have a surver in my house, do you? Dose it make that much differance? Should we all buy them to run audio softwear?

dan uses a modded opperating system. When you've changed the shell and alterd the driver and .dll files I don't think you can really call it by the name of what it was but that's my oppinion.
I think of it as making a frankinstine monster and still saying it's the person that the big toe belonged to, it's a man's body, a differant guy's brain and another man's head but it's still her cause there's her big toe.
It just dosn't work like that for me.

If you have a modded version, optimised for audio, no new general version will ever be better then the modded version.
Don't compair them then tell people to do stuff unless your willing to give them exacterly what you have

To try and be some help to Lukie, processors have alot more to them then what we bother looking at. Processors are a off branch of micro controllers. Like micro controllers the arcutecture, type of program memory and language set all effect the speed.

The type of memory I can't remeber ever being told straight out about any processor. Some times theres 1 type and in 1 block, sometimes its in 2 block and sometimes it's 2 differant types. The memory holds data needed during the current process and is used in the chip to hold the BIOS. That's the BIOS of the chip, what tells it it has this much memory built in, this clock speed and is called AMD whatever.
Some memory types take more time then others to read, all of them have differant times for write.

The acrutecture is company secreat, we'll never see how they connected the parts to do it but it differant in each model. The arcutecture or layout is done to optimise performance and tempriture.

The language set is important if your staying 32bit. 64bit processors have a 64bit language, 64bits in each instruction word. If they are used in a 32bit machine more then half of its instructions are useless as they are to big for the data bus. This mean to do the same task on a 32bit system it takes 8 or 9 times longer then it would on a 64bit opperating system like it's built for.
Each version of intel i5 will have a differant size language set.
Big sets mean complicated tasks can be done with fewer instructions to components. If you need to dump data to memory and only have a few instructions it'll have to state location in memory, state data, state it wants it written there. If you have a big languate you'll most likely have a instruction that will do all that in one command.

So better layout, faster and more money. Better memory type, faster and more money. Bigger instruction set, faster and more money.

Basically the clock speed and number of cores dosn't tell you everything about how well the processor opperates but it's enough to get a general idea. It also seems to be all that the companies think we need to know about their products.

If you don't understand it don't worry about it. This infomation won't effect your mixing or song writeing, it's just whats in your processor. Most people don't know whats even in the box we call a pc and manage to use them.

And jack go with what you know will be better then what you had, what ever you feel it is.
I use i5 and the versions of i5 alot of people on here have try'd can't cope. Mines manageing with no problems what so ever and little of it's really being used, when ever I've botherd looking.

(a interesting thing to remeber wile shopping is 2nd generation i5 are faster then 1st generation i7 of similar clock speed, I can't remeber why something about throtteling?)
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No worry, as you have written i don't know about a 32 bit OS that could handle more than 4 gb for one task, too. But what i'm not sure about is, that if i have a 64 Bit OS but the DAW is only 32 Bit how about the RAM limitation?

Still not sure if it should be a i5 or i7 and socket 1155 or 2011! Maybe buying a socket 2011 motherboard would be to much for being (further) upgradeable. I guess on socket 2011 there will come another generation of CPU and i could you use up to 64 GB of RAM - but i could not imagine how fast these much RAM could be a usefull (and not overpowered) - same with the CPU.

@Kid Stretch: May you could please make a small test. If it possible just load one of your projects in your i5 and then in your i7 system and write down some data - as CPU and RAM power that is used!? Would be very cool.

Greets,
Jack

danfuerth · May 13, 2012

Well I am not bias to Intel or anything like that.

Whatever you get remember we did not need to be in this mess if companies support windows xp 64 bit, as I think we would of never seen Vista or even windows 7.

Remember any 32 bit application in a 64 bit OS will still be limited to 2 gig instances due to the nature of math rules.
So the key as I DID MYSELF since I run both windows xp and Windows 7 64 bit is to dualboot period end of story

I don't actually even run windows as my OS as I run Puppylinux off a thumbdrive.

So since puppylinux is my main OS and it runs off a 512 meg usb jump drive, since puppy linux runs off ram when it boots I never have any issues.

I switched to this way of running my computer about 3 years ago. Yes I had ubuntu actually installed on the first drive but I didnt like it that much.

Puppy linux for the win!!!

RemixOS is also installed on the first drive ( backup OS)

Linux has always had a PAE kernel AVAILABE since it's inception. The problem is for microsoft how are they going to handle 98% of the computer world when they come knocking down on their door because they system crashed due to shitty video card drivers that mapped into the PAE space!!! lol

PAE is only 50% of the limitation answer
We need application developers to code for PAE support, in fact microsoft explains how to code apps and drivers for it!!!

Straight from the horses mouth
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/hardware/gg487512

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