I want to buy a daw

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  1. RedThresh

    RedThresh Producer

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    And now you talk about audio engine, ultimate proof you have no idea what you're talking about. Since ALL daws are using 32 bits floating points, ALL audio engines WILL sound the same, and have the SAME quality if you know what you're doing. Only thing that changes is the way the host is handling audio and dynamic, and the export quality, which is not a problem since there is external tools for exporting properly.

    "Audio Engine" is just pure marketing and kind of a myth since like, 2010.
     
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  2. Von_Steyr

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    Guy came out of the stomach today and already bites.
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  3. Von_Steyr

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    Hey buddy take it easy.I wasnt talking about the audio fidelity of the daw,i was talking about the coding regarding the way it handles the cpu.
    And no all daws do not sound the same.Now get your shine box.
     
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  4. Jasmine

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    I made a personal "by ear test" and found differences in sounding with Ableton and Cubase- though everybody tells me they sound the same.

    Well could be. Don't let us do the DAW-War here.

    Are there any features better solved in another DAW then Cubase?
     
  5. tapekiller

    tapekiller Kapellmeister

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    I swear I'm laughing so hard I'm about to choke.
     
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  6. Von_Steyr

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    People think that zeroes and ones are dead matter,hence why most believe no matter what kind of code you write all daws will sound the same.
    I dont know for other daws but cubase is coded in within a vast number of modules,each coded specifically for its own task.
    The result should be a clean sounding daw,that has no impact on the input/output of your source.
    Though in reality tiny little things can affect the result of anything in life really.
    When Hans Zimmer on of the most respected composers/producers in the industry,the man who has worked with the best in the industry,with the best audio engineers,worked in the best top studios,had the possibility to own and try any piece of equipment we can only dream of,the man who worked with analogue and now digital and was the pioneer when it comes to sampled libraries,when this man says he can tell when a project was not made in Cubase then people should listen.
    But i guess people producing for a few years know better,who the fuck is he to have an opinion?
     
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  7. Reza73

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    I use live and Cubase its depends upon your taste - but i think FL is more adaptable for electronic genres
     
  8. tulamide

    tulamide Audiosexual

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    I don't know why you think that quoting from a self-advertisement on the steinberg-site would have any relevance in neutral comparing of DAWs, but if you quote, you should quote correctly!
    For those interested, here's the link to the "interview", Steinberg made with Zimmer: http://www.steinberg.net/de/artists/community_stories/hans_zimmer.html

    He doesn't say he could tell when a project was not made with Cubase! He says, he can tell if a project was made in Logic: "I can tell straight away when somebody brings in a Logic track — I know exactly what it was recorded on."

    Using "facts" from Steinberg's self-ads to talk other DAWs down is amazingly naive.
     
  9. Von_Steyr

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    Thats basically the same thing,he can tell when something was recorded in a different daw.
     
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  10. Jasmine

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    Conclusion: Hans Zimmer is in truth a Logic user and every DAW sounds the same.
    I knew I would learn something.
     
  11. spacetime

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    he can probably tell the difference between flys left and right wing

    and he can also tell the difference in filters etc
     
  12. ArticStorm

    ArticStorm Moderator Staff Member

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    nice try :wink:
    Cubase feels more like a secured slow money transporter.

    well you can try out FL, Live trail/demo versions.
    for Cubase you need a dongle(elic stick!) to try it for a period.

    i own FL and Ableton, but use most of the Ableton, because its just my type of workflow and suits my genre better.
    it depends, what kind of genre you are doing and what you plans are?
    if you want to live perform Live is the only answer, FL has a Live performing mode, but its still to weak compared to the ableton one.
    (Cubase lags this mode full).
     
  13. ingehai

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    Have tryed them al and always goes back to....Nuendo4 :wink:
     
  14. smarty22

    smarty22 Newbie

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    Hey man ableton live is the best close your eyes dont think about price...
     
  15. Jasmine

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    If we are talking about real production DAW, choosing the right one, is not a question of genre.
    Let's compare specific features.
     
  16. Von_Steyr

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    Did you get the VSDSX?
    Hands down the best simmons emulation,that thing is a beast.
    You can tweak any sound you want with it,love it.
     
  17. AwDee.0

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    i wish it was an AU version...
     
  18. Jasmine

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    Yes I bought it, and trashed every other Simmons material I had. That thing is sensational.

    Layering it with a Dramatrix4-rattle noise and mangle it a little further- it even gives me a natural, bombastic sounding snare, without any artifacts- sitting perfect in the mix.

    Not to go off topic- I used Cubase stock effects (quadrafuzz 2) to 'fx' the rattle :wink:.

     
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  19. Von_Steyr

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    Its funny other big companies couldnt deliver what Ally did and he offers it for dirt cheap.
    It is indeed sensational,hope he delivers the 64bit version as he stated.
     
  20. Jasmine

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    >Its funny other big companies couldnt deliver what Ally did and he offers it for dirt cheap.

    Well in real, that's a great opportunity. I do this in other software fields.

    I wish Cubase would have a low level API like Ableton with MAX, next to VST.


    I would have some ideas too and code some shit, but the learning curve for VST is way to high for an initial hobby project.
     
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