That's why I said you don't get the point! Indeed, you talk about what you prefer, and Von_Steyr about what he prefers. Both makes no sense, because the OP is neither you nor Von_Steyr. Only he can find out, what DAW is the best for him. Unless you just wanted to derail the thread. Then you're right. That doesn't need any connection to the OP. But I really like that you see me as your friend! I feel honored
I'm not being passionate about studio one, I'm being appassionate about objectivity. Would you mind sharing your tests with us while you are at it? You know, just to back up your claims. That's what I'm asking you, since the demonstration is an oner of the accuser. You claim S1 is less cpu efficient than Cubase, then prove it. I have used both and I have noticed no difference, while on Ableton Live 9.0 and Fl Studio 11 and 12.0 it's another story. (anyway we own Cubase at work too because a collegue of mine uses it, and it's nice to see how you are making assumptions lead by ignorance... we buy the softwares we are using, unlike what your mind leads you to think)
I think the point of his example was "To each task its tool". Of course you can make an EDM song sketch with Pro Tools HD (full of DSP cards, lol), but it will be faster, cheaper and funnier to do it with Ableton or S1. There is no "best" DAW, but only a DAW that will suits your needs better than others. Can we move on now? Last edited: May 26, 2016
I have explained it thoroughly in several threads,i dont feel like writing a bible again. Any man that has a lot of experience with daw production can quite easily tell how good the code of the engine is written. I find it interesting you have no idea about this since it was discussed on many forums and reviews from people who bought it. You may not use the software to its fullest potential and do not notice anything unusual,perhaps its also certain lack of experience from your side. Your colleague uses it,but not you,thats a big difference,you are not qualified for this discussion.
You my sweet little friend, forgot only one thing. The creator of this thread, asked for help to make the right decision. I gave him a ton of related video links and personal meanings/experiences in detail. What did you gave him??? >Can we move on now? How will you continue? "Each task fits to its own tool, but wait.... it's your decision- nobody can help you." Ha, ha, ha. Last edited: May 26, 2016
Again with the assumptions, I never said I didn't use cubase before saying it's more or less the same (or at least, as far multiple effects chains and lots of unexported layering is concerned). Furthermore how can you assume how long I have been using DAWs? Again, you are being a bit pretentious there, because you can't say how experienced I am regarding what I do at work. Also, when I tried it by myself with Cubase without prerendering and Studio One they were almost on par (because since I often have to mix a lot of tracks I want to understand which is more suitable and honestly I sticked with S1 because of its workflow). Given that it's based on MY experience all I'm asking is you to at least link your tests with numbers (I guess asking for a video comparison would be too much :D), after all we're discussing here and to make said discussion constructive it would be ideal to bring some proof when you claim something.
Some people dont notice a difference between a 500 eur and 2000 eur road bike. When you take both bikes for a ride you can tell,do you need tests to prove it?No. Cubase is just a much better piece of engineering,deal with it. S1 has worst cpu handling than cubendo,pt,reaper,sonar,samplitude etc...deal with it.
Guillermo Navarrete.com could be a f*king malware site to re-encrypt already de-crypted things. But I guess it's an ordinary forum user. Last edited: May 26, 2016
Simply the best reply ever made to this kind of question. Hahahahaha I don't use Reaper, but I love this song. Lol
Exactly, it's HIS decision, and nobody can help him. That's the reason why DEMOS are available: to be able to take the good decision in regard of his NEEDS... as already at least 10 people have explained him. Oh, wait... he can't test Cubase because it need a dongle? That's BS. When you're serious about making music and buying a DAW, 20 dollars will not stop you - and even less as you can always resell the dongle if Cubase don't fit you. Now, enjoy the next 10 pages... He, he, he.
No,Guillermo is a Steinberg employee,product specialist,nice professional bloke who posts threads on new products and updates and sometimes comments on subjects related to Cubase.
Still not what I was asking. Not that I was expecting much, but at least the tests you mentioned before. Apparently asking for constructive material from who has mentioned doing tests is far beyond my expectations. Have a nice day.
Any daw could be the right daw for you - it´s all about what your needs are. Protools has become the state of art in the industry, but it´s not my cup of tea..... not that it´s bad but because it handles midi very poorly.... it´s a audio only daw imho Cubase handles both midi and audio brilliant so its pretty much more an all-round daw and has been the most forsighted daw for years and years Studio One is a lot like Cubase, prolly because it´s build by the guys that build the original Nuendo daw. Its without the hated dongle and a lot of people likes it a lot Ableton is not a real daw imho .... in some ways it pretent it is, but if you´re used to work with either Cubase/Nuendo/Protools/S1 you´ll soon find out it´s not a real daw. Im sure this application can do a lot of great things for people, but still not what I would call a real daw Sonar is indeed a underestimated daw imho. It´s been very popular in the US for years, but never been a succes in Europe... even their LE version wich is free if you buy a piece of software from them, can do wonderful things for you Sequoia/Samplitude are real daws like Cubase and other real daws I´ve highlighted here .... if you like them or not is more a matter of taste... they can do all you need from modern daw Reason is a very closed platform. You could call it a daw, but it doesn´t meets general standarts when it comes to a daw. Worst thing inho is that you cannot use plugins from 3th developers. A lot of people fancy this piece of software and Im sure they have their reasons for doing so Before any of you start to hunt me down I can say this: I have worked with Cubase since VST5 as a valid costumer and it´s my chosen daw - not because it´s better than other real daws but because I know it by heart and it works perfect for me. I´ve worked with Studio One as a valid costumer since it was released. It´s a great daw, works pretty much like Cubase and I´ll support this daw forever. My son tested Ableton some time ago and I had some sessions with him because he´d like me to teach him the basic stuff of a daw..... I simply gave up and introduced him to Cubase and Studio One ..... now he´s working with Cubase Elements wich is cheap but solid solution if you want to work with a real daw. I have Sonar LE as a valid customer - also tested the big sister - and Im suppriced it´s not that popular in Europe! Im a valid costumer of Reason for years. I gave it up some years ago because of the VST-issiue and their poor support and often very harsh attitude to costumers. If they don´t change they´ll soon be a sinking ship. I have worked with Protools very often in my friends studio. It´s a great daw but Im really suppriced how badly it handles midi and things related midi. Never been a valid customer of Magix so my experiences with their two daws is based on cracked stuff, and its years since I´ve worked with them.... all I can say is that they are great daws. Finally: Find out what you really need from a daw, and test those you can test for free! Good luck Last edited: May 26, 2016
do not forget the original daw these threads pop up all the time, i made one myself https://audiosex.pro/threads/daw-overview.25238/ Phloopy, can you put some other consensual knowledge in and make your reply into a sticky thread, one of the questions which comes up the most the difference between sequencers is not immediately transparent, nor that your skill matters much more then using a specific 2016 sound creation tool Last edited: May 26, 2016
https://www.facebook.com/search/str/guillermo+navarrete/keywords_users This must not even be his real name! Steinberg is taking the piss! lol
I thought it was a Mexican small drug boss that shoots chihuauas, in his green poncho while cooking some taco, while his 12 fat men are trying to mix some tracks, aaa, sorry, cracks
Thats the dumbest answer ever, why all Cubase users are poor minded frustrated "taunters"? Here's a real unsalty answer: -Cubase for audio to video production, accurate midi writing (most advanced feature of Cubase is its MiDi module), recording acoustic takes -Ableton Live for live perfomance/live feeling songwriting, material montage -FL for unlimited sound design possibilities (including free rooting, the only DAW able to do that), full intuitive song writing and playlist montage. Here's the troll answer to the other guy : -Cubase if you want to have headache and complicate your workflow for the same results, and horrible unplug and play feature (hue) -Live & FL if you like to actually write and produce music. Here is the simplest answer : Cubase for acoustic, natural (boring?) music Live for... Lives... FL for electronic music producing
