Hello! I've been lurking here for a while now, and people here seems pretty knowledgeable about genres and music in general. So i would like like to request some help with genre defining my music. I looked through the genres at rateyourmusic and the description of digital fusion seemed pretty accurate, but listening to some examples it, there was mostly just soft jazz with cheesy FM synths.

My music is:

• Extremely melodic and catchy - It has all the melodies, sometimes 3 or 4 at the same time
  
• Not for dancing - Polyrhythms, 5-tuplets, single bars of 15/16, rhythmic modulations, but in moderation
• Many chords - Much of the emotional impact comes from the harmony of simple chord with complex theory. Modes, chromatic mediants, chord substitutions but generally none or few chord extensions (just not a fan of the sound)
• Obviously influenced by metal - Also chiptune, orchestral music and sometimes synthwave
• Fundamentally different from most electronic music - The idea of having a sequencer or loop repeating while i turn knobs is a very alien idea to me. I have a DAW that can do anything, so why should it play the same thing over and over?

I was raised on power metal and progressive metal, often with these long and epic arrangements. I have never really listened to electronic music, since it just seemed so repetitive and boring to me. But i am an introverted person and really likes to make music on my own. I have been making metal for over 20 years, but never recorded anything because you need highly skilled musicians just to record anything (or actually practicing your instruments at all the last 15 years) and using VSTs for metal usually just sounds bad.

Anyways, here's some music. Latest album is probably the most relevant.
Choose you poison:

https://music.apple.com/us/album/rare-dirt-hypothesis/1704419569

https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n1R8Z0JPrzY6HH450PfHIomalTs9fCdcE

And all the other streaming places too.

I've got a lot of social anxiety, even on the internet. So i have tried to write this post for several days, but today is Bandcamp friday, so you know...would be stupid to post tomorrow.



EDIT:
It seems like i have upset people and i just want to apologize. I didn't mean to attack electronic music or say that everything is EDM, or even that EDM is bad. I'm sorry for being pretentious and thinking that i had a point of view that is worth sharing. I'm just bad with tone and wanted to show that had any credibility. I'll go back into hiding until i have earned the right to make music in a scene i don't belong in.

 

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Has a right to exist, why not.

 

Hey...
So, respectfully - a few points which I couldn't resist making. Your music is extremely catchy and melodic...in your opinion. And who says you can't dance to Polyrhythms?!
There is so much incredible electronic music out there in the world and has been for many many years, much of it "looped" but much of it not.
Simplicity is often key - one definitely doesn't need 3 or 4 melodies at the same time...
The whole concept of the loop is that, when it's good enough you can actually have a 1 bar loop for an entire track and it can sound incredible.
Over the years, I've heard close parallels with Techno and Metal.
I would say - try to stay open minded. This guy is a genius for example - Shackleton. Try his fireworks EP or his Fabric Mix...I could go on but he'll shatter your preconceptions about electronic music in an instant - whether you like his music or not...

All the best friend...

 

Mate, don't. It's a Power Metal head, he can't relate to us bassheads and we can't relate to him.

 

It's pretty cool how I can point out at least 5 electronic music producers that succeed in every point that you made just on the top of my head. Unfortunately, your bad take on electronic music will make people focus on it instead of your music, not a good self-promotion strategy.

 

I think you have a lot of skill. My problem isn't the notes, it's the instruments, I'm a more mellow listener. And old. Also highly sensitive to loud and harsh sounds so I find it hard to listen to. But I'm clearly not your audience. It's too busy for my ears but maybe that's what you like. I do admire the amount of work you've put into this, it's that kind of effort that's needed in order to become really good. Makes me feel lazy...

 

I liked your piece titled "Stray".

I come from a background of classical, metal, and rock, and that was before I became a professional touring musician (even more genres after that) who lived in Nashville, Los Angeles, and Austin, TX. I would encourage you to take a long, hard look at the different subgenres of electronic music. There are many great electronic artists out there. I'm sure you'll find something out there that you'll like and probably even learn something from.

Take care.

 

Congratulations for overcoming your social anxiety and posting here, welcome to the club!

 

Firstly, I would not call it Electronic but a mixture a various genres secondly, I really don't like these old, cheap and cheesy computer sounds, but the rest is more than good.

 

Haha - tru dat...!

 

i know you're not taking feedback, but a little bit of sidechaining and buss compression would give this the needed movement and dynamics that's kinda needed for this type of music... otherwise sounds good!

 

Electronic music is a pretty broad umbrella and comes in many forms. I came from a metal/rock background and I gravitated toward bands like Skinny Puppy, Nine Inch Nails, more recently Dead When I Found Her but I also like stuff like Survive (two of the members scored Stranger Things on Netflix), Boards of Canada, cEvin Key's of SP solo stuff, Chrysalide, Cyberaktif, Depeche Mode, Doubting Thomas, Gunship, The Midnight, a crap load of other stuff, and I didn't forget the 80s.

My point is Electronic music isn't just EDM. Perhaps explore more.

 

"sega saturn music" is the genre you unintentionally made the tracks you shared in.

i like it though

 

Well, I think it's really good. Actually, I'm working on music like the old school Rom di Prisco's Acid Techno. A few examples are the tracks he made for old PS1 games like NFS 2 and 3. There a lot of sample libraries for techno out there, but it's really hard to find some sounds like the accurate kick drum. I ask you for advise, Do you know accurate libraries for this?

 

If its electronic music but its not for dancing, and its not ambient music, what is the point?..
Polyrhythms, rhythmic modulation, tempo modulation, 16 tuplets, myriad of time sigs = this is exactly what certain genres of cutting edge EDM are all about for example psytrance.

As far as bizarre time sigs, will you innovate something that jazz music hasnt already explored and mastered 60 years ago? im sure not

Electronic classical music, that exceeds romantic composer's chord voicings and modulations? i think not

Much more interesting to elevate music you can dance to with all the music theory topics you mentioned. There is so much shitbrained, cookie-cutter 120bpm sequenced house/techno going around, to do something intelligent and be a tall poppy literally takes an inch more effort

Ever since the first music humans ever enjoyed, ie tribal drum circles, the point has been to create a theme (driving rhythm) and expand upon it, the idea being that a repeating pattern is the CONSISTENT PULSE THAT CONNECTS PEOPLE, SOME PART OF THE THEME REPEATING OVER AND OVER FOR PEOPLE TO BOND AND DANCE OVER = PHYSICAL ART & HUMAN EXPRESSION.

If you want to create a music concrete wankjob to only listen to intellectually as if its a math equation, and show off that you've learned some exotic time signatures and are too shy to dance, you will probably get appreciation as there are currently a bunch of far left hipsters floating about who seem to lap up anything presented in gallery format

 

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All I can say is that you have only heard the name of the theory without fully grasping its points like most of music producers.

 

Yeah Congratulations.
On Possibly the most pretentious, historically ignorant and cluelessly self absorbed description of your insular & myopic vanilla creation

I do applaud your Kahoona's and overcoming the social anxiety to put it out there however, as an electronic music veteran of the late 70's and the 80's with a lot of historical reference to both music and technology, i'll give you an analogy without discouraging your creativity (which is good & well done)
"If you mix all the ingredients of a cake and bake it as millions did before you without reading a recipe, you didn't invent cake, its just cake by any stretch of imaginative comparison"

 

Our ancestors were geniuses. Most of the delicious recipes have been tested by them thousands of times and the final results have reached us. Today's food recipes with uneven ingredients cause hunger and eventually death.

 

I liked the ones I did listen to. But the metal influences are obvious, and some of the lead synths sound like they could be in keygen music/chiptunes. Pretty cool.

 

Bro got electronic music and edm confused