I do not use Ableton as FL is my main DAW, but since it is a script you could learn from it as a starting point for your device to make it usable in Ableton. Good question i don't know if its patented or not. Here is the Homepage for the Script. https://isotonikstudios.com/product/crossfire/. Also the Fire NFX 2 Script by Warbeats https://github.com/nfxbeats/FIRE-NFX-V2 could be useful as it has some nice functions for FL integrated like switching presets.

Coding the Hardware in C is clever since its with C++ the closest language to Hardware the only one above would be Assembler. The Python Script is only there to make the Hardware and FL unterstand each other as i understood?

 

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Thanks for the links, I will study the question for Ableton users.

There is already on my side a work with the script functions of FL studio, in fact I first tested the script possibilities then thought of a hardware for those implementation (like the akai FIRE).

Yes, that is the case. The hardware is C operated on the EQ hardware, generate / send / get midi commands, script do the processing of the midi message on the DAW (next eq plugin, get eq value for real time tweaking and adaptation for a preset).

 

So, I have been grinding in the dark a 3d render for my idea. I might not even finish the thing in real life, I underestimated the engineering part.

But here it is :

 

Like the song as well as the movie, you cut it down from 9 to 5 bands...which is still cool.

 

Hello,

Some updates,

I have done some other 3D render :



I have finished the design of the PCB :



And manufactured it. Now I am populating the pcb and doing some test :

 

IIRC, (sorry it's been since 2009-10 or so...), but you could port your own python scripts to Ableton as I used to do that with the original APC40, and some other devices... (I remember doing some editing on them, and it was as simple as dragging them into a particular folder), I don't know if they locked it down since then as they sell their Push devices and whatnot, but I kinda doubt it, as if anything they promote controllerism quite heavily, and with Max4Live etc, I'm pretty much 100% sure you could do it..

Heck, I remember mapping xbox and Wii controllers and the old RockBand Guitar etc, (and using their gyroscope functionality etc)... I'll have to see if I have those notes around here on some backup drive...

(sorry, I didn't see the second page of this thread! Your work looks fantastic! and you are farther along then I would have thought... congratulations, and best of luck with it!)...

I will be following this thread and your progress. Godspeed.

 

To be honest, I don't know python, and that is the part of the project that is still obscure to me. I am ok at designing electronics, the hardware, the machine code (the midi USB device / this knob send midi / this LED on ..), but the rest of it, most of people know more than me.

I worked with FL studio and recently they launched the ability to do many things with python (like recalling value of plugin and send back MIDI / searching a certain type of plugin and focus and many many other things).

I never touched other DAW, so maybe they are compatible to what I am searching to achieve ?

The hardware I am designing have features set mainly for any EQ plug (intended for fabfilter ProQ3), it basically send midi data like a simple MIDI controller (sends knob tweak information via MIDI, button press, etc). But it need data back like actual plugins values when a new plugin is selected, actual VU meter value / mixer channel info etc. It is compatible by whatever DAW that can send this data back with those informations in MIDI.
See front panel :


That is the main nuance from a normal midi controller, is that it is more immersive, a bit like the SSL console.

So.. maybe every DAW nowadays could do that ^^

Thank you man ! ;)


EDIT : here, clearer view of the functionnalities (not fixed)

 

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