I tagged the one i meant about, and i wrote it in "plural" mode for the future "extra-flaws" posts from the next potential repliers. Also, all i meant was to make sure he doesn't take everything too seriously and end up destroying the core concept of what he created. Sometimes.. "advices" aren't guaranteed for the better in every case.
I apologize if you felt any insulting from my side, but i thought you wouldn't feel "included" in my post by default.

 

I salute you for your drum programming! Very good!

 

PRO!

 

I think I will layer the chorus some more. And as far as the kick not being clear or whatnot, I would like solutions if a 'flaw' is pointed out. So if the kick is soft then how could I change that? Compression, or layering? And thanks @Evorax for what you had to say. Tbh I've enjoyed the feedback. However continuing on what Evo said, "How's this mix" isn't "what's wrong with this mix". Criticism is of course welcome but solutions and compliments should also balance it out. For the most part I've seen that though so I don't mean to offend anyone!

 

i dont know why you picked me out of everybody cause i think all the "critic" i gave is justified but i understand what you mean. but i think you got the perspective wrong on my critic cause as i said i enjoyed the track too. if not i wouldnt even commented on it. and as i said i even joined the forum to comment on it thats how much i liked it. so all my comments are just small improvements. but trust me making the kick stand out a little more with some mid/high punch wont destroy the mix if done properly. it will just help to make the kick stand out more on small systems like laptop speakers and earbuds as opposite on beeing a little covered by the bass right now. also we might talk about 2 or 3 db here maybe less i dont know. same with all my other points. mixing is all about emphasizing the mood of song and making it work and also making a song translate the best to different hifi systems. (depite working out real obvious flaws. but even those flaws sometimes can make a song work) but nevertheless everybody has a different taste as music is very much subjective and also its crucial on what you listen too and how your room "sounds" as all this alters the sound of a song. But i agree that you easily can overthink a mix and destroy it. more than one time i had like 10 versions of a mix just to come back to version 2 or 3 as the best.
@Johnny Mach1ne for the kick to get a touch more punch it depends. you could compress with a slower attack to emphasize the first transients or use a transient design plugin. or eq a little high/mids back. also layering could work.
anyway my offer still stands if you want i mix the track for you and you can then still decide what mix you like more. if you work with cubase 5, ableton live, fl studio, reason 5 or studio one you could even send me the session and i will send you the session back so you can even see what i did to the mix, what plugs i used etc. first hand.

 

Regarding the kick, it will still be hearable on other small systems if it's mixed right with the other elements being discretely sidechained in the minus 150-200hz area (you know, slightly hipassed only when the kick hits). You don't need to add more extra content to the kick than what it already contains between 0-400hz area. The only way i'm seeing it getting improved is by some envelope shaper such as transient designers that will emphasize the attack, but again, the attack doesn't mean that it's going to get bright containing more information in the mid&high areas.

If you add mid-high information on the kick it means it's going to contain a click-type of attack and that will totally change the design of the kick, that's no longer mixing, that's sound-design.

Also talking about purpose, when you lowpass as sound you're making it dark. When you produce a "dark-ish" type of hip-hop song then most of the elements (excluding vocals, hats/cymbs and FXes) are getting lowpassed. Check some of Drake's dark type of songs or alike, you'll hear lowpassed kicks in their music as well. Did Drake's engineers had to add an extra layer of high-end rich pads on his actual low-passed pads to make them "hearable on the smaller systems"? no, they respected the style and moved on, especially since the producer made/choose that kick darker since the beginning.
What i'm trying to say is that the kick can holds punch without high-frequency information (click attack) as well, it's a matter of how you blend the other elements along it.
And also i'm sure that @Johnny Mach1ne was fully aware of the kick's design since the beginning of the song's production.

Cheers.

 

Last edited: Jan 19, 2016