How to get more use out of old samples

Discussion in 'Acoustic' started by Michael Sa, Dec 19, 2016.

  1. Michael Sa

    Michael Sa Member

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    I made this video to help with improving the playability of old samples from East West and Opus 1. Its easy to follow and it saves paying for new sound libraries again.

    The main thing is it removes the lack of a round robin, so now repetitions, trills and fast moving sections sound more realistic, you do need some reverb to get the best out of them I think.

     
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  3. Andrew

    Andrew AudioSEX Maestro Staff Member

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    I managed to get VSL Giga samples to work seamlessly in G-Player routed through VSL PerfTool.
    Those are IMHO the best from "the old samples". :winker:

    Opus 1 Giga patches suffer when converted to Kontakt. Best to keep them in gig and recall them through g-player
     
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    I've used them in the gig format with g-player in the past but still found them lacking something, if you can find the kontakt version or use a Giga to Kontakt converter and follow my video you will see the difference.

    Just to add this will work with many other sample liberties, all I'm doing is creating slices of each sample and making it a round robin but in play order 1 to 12
     
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    Andrew AudioSEX Maestro Staff Member

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    Legato, Repetition and Alternation patches won't work straight in G-Player without the help of VSL Performance Tool.
    Of course when converted to Kontakt, the samples can be compressed using NCW, however proprietary envelopes tied to Giga format won't be retained by the conversion.
    This was covered on G-Player website.

    Of course you can slice the repetition samples into individual note blocks, but IMHO that's a bit redundant, as using PerfTool, these can be recalled very easily.
     
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    If you guys want to play with the Giga-format I can recommend Tascam GVI wich is a discontinued piece of software that can be bought secondhand from time to time!

    GVI can do the job!
     
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    Nice share thanks...
     
  8. Matt777

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    As I see you know lots about this stuff.. I have a "GM library" CD and I remember you could drop the general midi file on Gigasampler and then when you played it everything loaded auto-magically (or it was the other way around, looong time ago..). But it was the best sounding GM player and the fastest setup (for orchestral sketch-up &stuff). Does G-player have the same functionality? And which version of G-player and Performance Tool do you use? tnx

    Have a HDD full of giga libs. Was thinking to delete everything.. but never had the heart... ;)
     
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    Andrew AudioSEX Maestro Staff Member

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    PerfTool is at 2.1.1 and G-Player at 2.0.5

    G-Player take is to sound just as the good ol' Gigastudio and to take its native "gig" format without conversion.
    And I'm really impressed with it, all VSL PerformancePro legatos sound spot on.
    But you have to route your DAW through PerfTool to get fully working articulations. LoopBe30 is a great help in that endeavour. :wink:
     
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