How to get killing guitar tones with amp sims?

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  1. pelao

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    yes it's a single take, i will try pan the 2 takes
     
  2. korte1975

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    having a presonus interface was an eye opener how crappy the line6 sound quality is
     
  3. Mattc90

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    To get great amp sim tones you need a great sounding source to feed them with. You've made a thread about this before and I gave you what I thought was somewhat useful advice. I would suggest trying out a DI box in conjunction with your interface and to save you reading a huge paragraph on why, here's a video with sound examples going from jack into interface to jack into DI box into interface. You'll notice the difference in the high-end clarity the most and how much the noise floor is lifted which in turn makes your tone clearer.



    Then check out Overloud TH3, it's seriously incredible sounding.

    Here are a couple of tone tutorials from the same guy, he makes some gnarly tones with TH3 especially, check out his channel. I think you can learn a lot from how he dials in amp sim tones even if you don't use TH3.

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    The other thing I'd say is learn to balance the sims' amp head by being able to hear low, mid and treble/ presence equally across the tone, this will change drastically with every cab you try. Have an idea of the kind of tone you want, how much gain, what kind of cab and try to get there in the least convoluted way you can. You'll find you may get far better high gain tones by actually having less gain. Try using an EQ to rid the tone of boxiness/ whistly frequencies before and/ or after the amp for clarity rather than for example a simulated Tubescreamer style pedal (although that could be perfect if you have a particularly bass-heavy cab running).

    Maybe check this out too, could be helpful:

     
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  4. pelao

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    thanks for those tutorials, i'll watch it
     
  5. F3r

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    something that help me a lot :
    Neoduction Tools Hierarchy
    or
    omega a /omega n
    some EQ-TILT
    BOOST , and HARMONIC EXCITERS. maybe SATURATION.
    but i always put HIERERCHY after or before = AMPSYMS.

     
  6. pelao

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    i saw hierarchy a few months ago, but i dont take importance to it jeje what a fool. Thaanks fer
     
  7. pelao

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    i was thinking about buy a zoom g3 i saw that it has great tones and it will be a less cpu use for reecordings
     
  8. F3r

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    que guitarra tenes?
    me parece q mejor primero tener una guitarra ´´TOP´´ captadores buenos hambuckers , activos, buen braso. etc. etc.
    a mi me parece mucho mejor tener un aguitarra ´´TOP´´ Q PEDALES Y/O AMPLIFICADORES.
    no sirve de nada tener llantas de ferrari en un fitito, en tendes? jajaja
    si tenes una buena guitarra , entonces pedaleras con DI, etc hay muy buenas, tal ves si ahorras un poco mas podes pensar em:
    cosa tipo: (q tambien te sirven para tocar en vivo):
    ejemplo:
    Fractal Audio
    http://www.fractalaudio.com/p-axe-fx-ii-preamp-fx-processor.php
    torpedo series:
    http://www.two-notes.com/en/hardware/torpedo-studio/
    kempers:
    http://www.kemper-amps.com/lineup

    y claro alguna de la ´´top´´ de line 6: (como decis).helix o ZOOM g3

    estos tambien te sirven par atocar en vivo.
     
  9. pelao

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    creo q puse en el thread, tengo una ltd ec 10. es gama media, la pedalera mas que nada es para grabacion casera. de las baratas es la mejor que hay tuve la boss me 25 y la vendi, aparte la puedo usar como interface de audio y mejorar el sonido de la misma con IR's
     
  10. F3r

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    MAN, great.
    keep doing. The important thing is that you like it.
    AGUANTE = PANTERA / CROWBAR /DOWN / AND NOLA SLUDGE/DOOM/GROVE = METAL.

    I'm going to start following here and on youtube, you're also playing PanterA in a les poul and in a stratocaster?
    Very good kept doing it.
     
  11. F3r

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    entendi solo una viola tenes esa?
    y preferis la zoom g3?
    yo me babo todo por tener un fractal o un torpedo. pero yo q se.

    comenze a seguirte tambein aca en foro.

    che... me delire con los PRECIOS la zoom g3 es bien barata un cuarto de lo q vale un fractal/kemper/torpedo. jajaj fue la emocion.
     
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  12. pelao

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    solo tengo la viola nomas, la zoom la quisiera comprar vendiendo mi placa lexicon. SI obviamente quien no quisiera tener un axe fx o un kemper es solo que tendria que ser sobrino de bill gates o ricky fort.
     
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    JAJJA Y SI. ACA ESTABa VIENDO OTRA LA LINE 6 HELIX ACA en brasil vale 12.000 r$ :woot:. jaja yo q se.
     
  14. pelao

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    yo estoy esperando que salga el helix native y ver si definitivamente los vst valen la pena.
     
  15. SineWave

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    Program a shotgun over wi-fi, triggered by an amp plugin to kill "the president". You have to edit the source code of v1.0 of it that was used to kill the clowns, but it's not a big difference so it shouldn't be hard to do it.
     
  16. Herr Durr

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    @korte1975 nice stuff man.. dropped by your channel.. amazing how good those le pou sims sound..
    ballsy as all, and all for free...

    cheers
     
  17. MMJ2017

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    it is because you dont have a good di in the lexicon, get a good guitar direct box from radial etc. or get a good interface for which their hi-z input re-acts like it would with a guitar amp impedance.
     
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    Or get a preamp such as ART MPA Pro II tube preamp which has both line and XLR inputs to feed your interface with.
     
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    share your DIs i'll process them for you, if you like i'll share the steps eq compression and amp sim i used.
     
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