How to control via MIDI CC a virtual amp while playing? [SOLVED]

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  1. Olymoon

    Olymoon Moderator

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    Hi Guys,
    I'm trying to control Amplitube, via MIDI CC but there is a problem:
    If the track's input is defined as Audio, it does not receive midi messages, and if it's defined as MIDI it does not receive audio from my bass.

    I tried to create a second track with midi input and a send to the audio track, but it didn't worked.

    Anyone already found a solution for this?

    Thanks in advance for your answers.

     
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  3. orbitbooster

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    Well I didn't use amplitube, but I configured vocoders where audio is passed through the vocoder as fx plus it receives all MIDi cc, it shouldn't be much different process.
    At this moment I cannot use daws but I'll see.
     
  4. Olymoon

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    Thanks for your answer.
    Was the audio already recorded or did you did this live?
     
  5. clone

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    if you have an audio channel, with the FX as an insert; with that channel selected/highlighted in Reaper, can't you use a Latch Automation where the project plays back and any moves you make on the FX begin to write data into an automation lane for that parameter?

    Once a parameter begins writing CC data into an automation lane, you can stop playback. After than you can use a dropdown menu to select the Parameters you actually want to write data to. This will let you see how CC automation lanes look when they are for a Midi controlled plugin (or parameter).

    Or are you trying to setup Midi Learn control of the plugin?
     
  6. panaman

    panaman Kapellmeister

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    well Oly usually the advice you give is; state the daw, os, details, you know...
     
  7. skeltoid

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    There are a surprisingly large amount of youtubes on this.
    It depends on the daw.
    Came from sistersite so did not notice this is under reaper. (sorry)
     
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  8. clone

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    I use Logic, but writing some bogus data using Latch automation is a very easy way to get Automation lanes started (especially when you do not know the CC # for the parameter you want to control) Then you switch the dropdown to the correct parameter Name and you can draw, etc. The automation lanes belong to the audio track, not a separate midi track.
     
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  9. Myfanwy

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    Best Answer
    Insert Amplitube into a track and set Input to your MIDI interface. Then create a child track and set Input to your Audio interface. then arm both tracks and you should be fine. The child track is receiving your audio signal and it goes to the parent track where MIDI CCs can control Amplitube.
     
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    We are here HomeForums>Software>DAW>Reaper. Just sayin'. :winker:
     
  11. justsomerandomdude

    justsomerandomdude Rock Star

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    Oh boy, This is gonna sound silly.
    Did u arm the second track?
     
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    In Reaper, MIDI is independent from Audio on tracks and it's easy to assign CCs you like to any plugin, even those who don't have MIDI learn. To make things easier for you, though, you might want to check ReaLearn JS plugin. But it is possible with a little research to do it without it. Do you know Kenny Gioia's Reaper YT channel? It's absolutely fantastic.
     
  13. justsomerandomdude

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    U can pretty much right click on any thing, and click learn and just twist the knobs on ur controller, the track doesn't even have to armed.
     
  14. Olymoon

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    Thank you for your answer.
    But I need to play and modify the parameters live, at the same time. Not to record modifications, then play or the other way.

    I may have not explained well what I want to do.
    I want to play live, while modifying if needed some amp parameter, without using a mouse, but using a midi controller.
    That's why I need the track to receive both midi and audio at the same time live.
     
  15. Olymoon

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    thank you for your answer.
    Of course I've done that first, but if I keep the track as midi, no audio comes in.
     
  16. Olymoon

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    Thank you for your answer.
    I have already used midi learn to define what midi cc will control each Amplitube parameter.
    But when I put the track input to audio, midi cc from my controller are no more received.
    And I need to put the input to audio to hear my bass.
     
  17. justsomerandomdude

    justsomerandomdude Rock Star

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    U dont have to change the input to midi, keep as is Stereo or mono, it receives midi when u right click on parameter which is a knob and click learn.
     
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    I get it now. Both audio and MIDI recording at the same time.
    Then you indeed have to use a second track for the midi[CORRECTED and the amp] and sent it directly to the amp. But I don't remember the details.
    Something about the endless possibilities of Reaper's MIDI routing.

    Edited: correction
     
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  19. Olymoon

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    Yes, thank you, this worked.

    I tried a similar solution using routing, but I didn't thought about child track.

    Thank you very much. :bow::bow:
     
  20. Olymoon

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    no, if the track input is set to audio, it does not receive midi data.
     
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  21. justsomerandomdude

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    Does it work now ?
     
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