How to (autotune) from the video ''the music industry is fake''....

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  1. insaner

    insaner Ultrasonic

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    Hi all,

    I have a question about the results after using autotune which are shown in this video ''the music industy is fake''.

    First you hear his orginal voice, then the autotune effected voice but after that @ 3:15 it sounds so clean. How to get such results? even if i could get close to such results, that would be so awsome. Then i can finally use my own (''normal'') voice in my productions.

     
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  3. The Koala

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    You should try Melodyne or IL Newtone. The latter has three knobs making the work really simple and great sounding : one controls the amount of variations/vibrato of each note, one changes the tuning, and the last one smooths up transitions between notes, but I'm not sure if it's also available as a VST...
     
  4. Baxter

    Baxter Audiosexual

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    This video is 3 years old and they used Waves Tune. But as said, try Celemony Melodyne. It's a powerhorse for this sort of stuff.
     
  5. jayxflash

    jayxflash Rock Star

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    Haha, this RT video is utter bullcrap. You can't autotune a deaf vocalist without sounding like Cher in "Believe". Autotune/audio manipulation is not even powerful like Photoshop on pictures: one can make minor or advanced corrections but one can't transform a random 50+ women from the street in a magazine cover model.
     
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  6. insaner

    insaner Ultrasonic

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    I understand that you need a certain skill to get good autotune results, but i was amazed when i heard the difference from the so called t-pain effect to the clean part.

    Let me put it this way; if i can sing like the guy in the example (ok its very short to hear his real voice but you get a tiny idea) i will be able to get roughly the same results. There is no magic involved? :D

    Thanks!
     
  7. Kwissbeats

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    It's simply in the montage, You get a T-pain effect when you hit the wrong notes on purpose.

    as you can see it's set up to mock the products. what you hear in the third part was not from the same material.
    It was probably taken from a part where the guy did try a little bit more.

    not that it changes the fact the amount of tune these days are ridiculous,

    What I don't get is why they freaking lip-sync since there are tons of solutions to tune in live settings,

    if your album is tuned is not a reason to lip sync in any way. The same goes for the drummer, his parts are quantized, and for the guitarist because his parts are dubbed, the bass player because his parts has been done over by the engineer because the bass player actually sucked, ETC, ETC,

    See where I am getting at? I suggest They bring a good live engineer who knows his stuff,
    all you really takes is a netbook with a small interface and any daw.

    and wouldn't you pay 75$ to see Madonna start singing when here tune setting is wrong in front of thousends of people :)

    I would :)
     
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  8. jayxflash

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    Forget about that video, it's all fake. Search youtube for legit examples of before/after processing. And keep in mind that even if you can correct the pitch of a vocal, you can't do anything when it comes to character, so depending on what result you're after (more like Pitbull or more like Busta Rhymes) you need someone with an appropriate timbre.
     
  9. junh1024

    junh1024 Producer

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    Choosing your Autotune settings carefully can avoid very annoying/unnatural-sounding artefacts that are so prevalent on many released CDs.
     
  10. Burninstar

    Burninstar Producer

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    If you truly believe this, then you should check out Melodyne 4 Studio. Formants allow you to change the character of one voice to to that of another. You can also change the melody they are singing, make harmony parts that sound like they were sung by different people. It is easy to just change 1 note within a recorded complex chord. There is so much more I can't tell you here. So I put a review on the post.

    We are already living in the future. I lived through a time where it was unimaginable that you could ever have a recording studio in your home. Really.

    SOS Review: http://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/celemony-melodyne-4 If you can demo it for yourself, do so. It is an unbelievable game changer!

    Remember the city of OZ and the man behind the curtain, it's like that. LOL
     
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  11. Baxter

    Baxter Audiosexual

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    I think you are mistaken. Technology has come a long way.

    I'm however glad that I can sing in key (and actually have difficulty singing OUT of key).
     
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    Trust me, i come from both wolds (audio and video).I think you haven't seen any retouching done lately.
     
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  13. yabiss

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    Wrong
    It's just as easy. And i've been using Photoshop since version 0.9 and Cubase before it was called cubase. Atari ST and Pro24 users rise !
     
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    Very true
    and this is just one OLD demo
     
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    Partially true only. Of course if given the choice you would preferably take a good singer with a specific voice but now this comes second to a great face and body at least in the pop industry. Buyers are 12 years old females. The others simply to not buy music anymore. And live concerts are far too risky for a poor skilled but famous singer. Autotune or lipsyncing is king.
     
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  16. Kwissbeats

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    With all respect, that it as a 'red herring'. "I can sing with constant volume, I don't need a compression"

    the sonic capability's of tuning are way beyond that, we like our Legato/Portamento on our synth.
    to an extend it can make great Glissando effects, one could copy a track, tune it diffrent and only keep the overtones or create Dissonant parts
     
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    thats how its done.
    i think the song is still catchy, but i would pay for it.
    the problem is you cant hear how fucking bad she sings, it was painful not only at the fixed part, but also the vocal was emotionless.

    but nobody will see that on the final record, labels perfected in the days to use the body as weapon to sell their shit music.
    thats why i prefer underground music without videos, where you only hear the actual, you dont know how the epople are looking its just the music, which speaks for itself. i am happy to buy then.

    you can spot the face shape is off.
    i sometimes can see that its shopped, because i have an for poportions, for symmetry.

    but still its sad how everywhere is faked.
     
  18. Baxter

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    Agreed. I know what you are saying. :)
    I just mean that I have "trouble" singing out of key, as I'm too locked in on the intervals (after 25 years of doing so, studying it and working in the field). That's all.
     
  19. boogiewoogie

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    It's true. Silly horny men's minds work like that. I used to think so too (back in the 90s, I bought Britney Spears albums, luckily I got wiser), that if we listen to the music of some sexy pop star, it somehow would make it possible that we were going to have sex with that pop star :D Don't ask where the logic is. But that's how it is. Like a sexy chick on a car ad or car show, makes your mind think that if you buy that car, that chick is going to have sex with you. LOL.

    So when you buy the album, you are basically buying the idea of having sex with that artist.
     
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    Not really. Everything young and beautiful is more attractive than anything old and ugly .
    Young people are interested in the new artists and genres (even if they are something recycled from the past with a new cover).

    Your sex remarks suggest that you had some kind of sexual fixation...
     
  21. boogiewoogie

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    It's usually not about the music, just look at all the fangirls who want to kill themselves when they find out Justin Bieber had a girlfriend, and threatening to kill her in order to live in the fantasy that they will be with him.
     
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