Hate is humanity, love a construct, peace is delusionary.

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  1. Judge Dredd

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    The natural state of man is aggression, possession, prejudice and victory through self preservation. From war with sticks and stones, to road rage, to posting on the internet, mankind is the same as ever he was.

    Love exists only in marketing designed Hallmark greeting cards, TV, romance novels and the minds of fools. No one loves anyone. Children exhibit a form of learnt behaviour to parents. Sexual partners succumb to desire and lust. Some can't do without things or other people, but that's dependency and nothing more.

    In a world view, no body has ever known 'peace' without violence first. On a personal level, self sacrifice and compromise are always the victors, always. Going against our make up, agreeing to abide others isn't a win, it's only ever the best of the rest second place prize. No need to romanticise what never made us the dominant, greatest species on the planet.

     
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    that face tho lol.png
     
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    That puts the man in human :rofl:
     
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    sheesh getting flipped off by a tranny during your election rally... :no:


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    Hate is all you need

     
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    USA?
     
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    Bollox. Never heard of species interest? The golden rule? How altruism is a product of self interest?

    Ever, you know, taken a look around?


    Humans are social creatures. A lone human isn't really a human. It doesn't mean they are never angry or violent, but it certainly means they are not always angry and/or violent etc. Humans encompass *both* poles, selfish and altruistic.
     
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    Reciprocity is deeply rooted in most species. It's what makes groups stronger.
    Without cooperation, we would be extinct long time ago.

    Modern hate is only an effect of materialization, anxiety and overpopulation.
     
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    As history has shown, human apes (like others in the family), are social within small family groups, where one typically has domain over the others, usually by physical prowess. When more than one group interacts, violence enables incorporation and consolidation. This is evident from stone age man through today. History is littered with the blood of the conquered.
    Altruism is not much more than societal comfort afforded through religious teachings, but most definitely against the grain running through mankind.

    But by all means, message me when western G string wearing beach goers happily co exist with head chopper terrorists, due to the inbuilt human ability to overcome through peace and love.
     
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    Not saying it can't be overcome, but it's a conscious effort to do good.
    No one ever has to try to be bad, right?
     
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    you might be doing it wrong bro... Although you used the terms "physical prowess" so you you might actually be correct now, I always get confused there. I just hope God didn't make you as a solo prototype :like:
     
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    People love to hate other people. Why else would they do it?

    You might be sitting at home hating someone with maximum effort while that person is not thinking of you at all.

    You might hate other musicians who are scoring hits with something you think is crap. They just laugh at you.

    Hate can only lead to violence cause hate is a reminder that you are powerless.

    (Just some random thoughts on the subject)
     
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    Prowess defined as 'skill or expertise in a particular activity or field' or 'bravery in battle' - Just like Gorillas have a silver back, just like from ancient times through the ages, we've had chieftains and kings who got there through killing off the opposition and intimidating what's left into acceptance or, as some say, peace. It's the natural order of things that makes us human.

    Thankfully, for most of us, the physicality of leadership has mostly been replaced by wealth as a way to achieve power, though I suspect the motive of getting to the top remains the same for those so inclined.
    Small family groups are replaced by warring tribes and villages that as always, then merge through more conquest into realms and kingdoms. Modern day nationalism and patriotism is just an extension of our joint history - A shared distrust and dislike of outsiders, with self preservation of ideas, culture and identity fuelling the clarion calls.

    As for god making me, hey, he's your god, not mine. Blame him.
     
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    Animals don't hate. Animals kill for survival only, without the hate emotion. This emotion of hate is, I'm sure, a learnt emotion, not naturally occurring. Hate is not the same as anger, nor is hate a natural consequence of anger. Hate is embedded, taught to people by others.
     
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    Apart from, say, Cats, who do kill for reasons other than survival. Natural instinct.

    Hate is much more than an emotion and learnt behaviour, it's a physical state of being affecting distinct and observed parts of the brain such as areas in the medial frontal gyrus, right putamen, premotor cortex and medial insula.
    Parts of this so-called "hate circuit," are also involved in initiating aggressive behaviour, but feelings of aggression itself—as well as anger, danger and fear—show different patterns in the brain than hatred does.

    But lets not just focus on just one word. I wrote "the natural order of man is aggression, possession, prejudice and victory through self preservation". History says that's right, modern day confirms it.

    I'm not defending anything, just offering the reality based, non rose tinted spectacled vision of our species.
     
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    Oh, you were being serious.. On that note.. throughout civilizations humans have survived by joinging together in groups to survive against nature and common enemies. A small family group might have more difficulty fending off enemies who try to rob or enslave them. Nationalizm unites unrelated people to an understanding of a greater good for the benefit of all. This is all designed to create organizion which historically has allowed for great scientific advancements improving the quality of life, not only for its own people but for other nations as well, as opposed to some tribes who still remain isolated and stuck in the daily grind of just trying to collect food. Without order there is chaos, and historically nothing good has come from that.
     
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