Half Time - Drums, other instruments?

Discussion in 'Education' started by samsome, Nov 7, 2021.

  1. samsome

    samsome Guest

    I understand how its done on drums..you just put snare on 3rd beat instead of 2nd and 4th


    but

    my question is...

    can guitarists also play in half time (without thinking about drums?) how would a guitarist do half time without thinking of drums?

    or is it meant to be just for drums

    (as all the other insturments will follow the drums beat)..

    thanks


    btw sorry i'll stop with the questions for now LOL
     
  2.  
  3. wavyj

    wavyj Producer

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2020
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    81
    It's like asking if guitars can play quarter notes instead of eight notes, and so on: of course. It's not bad to ask questions, though make sure to spend at least equal time just practicing and experimenting so you can grow. Only by doing stuff you get better.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Love it! Love it! x 1
    • List
  4. samsome

    samsome Guest

    but how can you make it feel half time on guitar?? just by accenting the third beat whatever that note is on the riff you're playing?

    it just doesn't seem something guitarists would do, i think its more of a drums thing?
     
    • Interesting Interesting x 1
    • List
  5. MMJ2017

    MMJ2017 Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2017
    Messages:
    3,538
    Likes Received:
    1,689
    Every rhythmic contour is possible for any instrument.

    You can have any instrument " layer "

    Half or double ( 2 multiplier )

    There is also tons of other options.

    Like for fun try 3 instead .

    Anything is possible.
     
  6. MMJ2017

    MMJ2017 Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2017
    Messages:
    3,538
    Likes Received:
    1,689
    Let's say your tempo
    Is 120 bpm

    If you compose a 60bpm guitar part
    It will accomplish what you are wondering .
     
  7. Lois Lane

    Lois Lane Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2019
    Messages:
    4,849
    Likes Received:
    4,768
    Location:
    Somewhere Over The Rainbow
    A rhythmic feel with the accents adjusted to make it seem half the tempo. It splits four beat bars (1 - 2 - 3 - 4 -) into eight beats (1 - & - 2 - & - 3 - & - 4 - &) and changes the accents from the 2 and 4 to the 3 and 7, doubling the gap between them. This allows musicians to change the tempo of a song without affecting the overall time signature.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • List
  8. Stevie Dude

    Stevie Dude Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2020
    Messages:
    2,445
    Likes Received:
    2,193
    Location:
    Near Nyquist
    it doesn't work like that, as a guitar player for 20 years I can assure you half-time guitar doesn't work like that. That is just halving the tempo, half-time is just the "feel" of the part/phrase/riff but the tempo remains at original speed. It's kinda tricky for guitar and involves certain type of strumming or picking, with strong (accented) hit and weak hit plus different counting (than usual) like @Lois Lane mentioned above. Also need to be clever to create some illusion to trick the listener on the part's composition, the keyword to pay attention like @Lois Lane mentioned is "seem half tempo" but not half tempo.

    Composing the guitar part at half of the original tempo will just bring down the song's feel to the downtempo teritory, and everything will start sounding weak.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Interesting Interesting x 1
    • List
  9. MMJ2017

    MMJ2017 Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2017
    Messages:
    3,538
    Likes Received:
    1,689
    What do you mean it doesn't work like that ?
    ( curious)
    If the song is 120bpm
    And you are playing normal time .
    To go into a half time section you are just treating it as if the tempo is 60bpm for that part .

    ( meaning you still construct the lines,licks, or riffs
    In a normal way you would in terms the accents and the melody )

    So , what I'm asking you is this .

    What are the specific differences between
    A guitar part in 120bpm ( halftime )
    Compared to
    A guitar part in 60bpm ?

    My answer is there are no differences between those two .

    The same for doubletime .

    What are the differences between
    A guitar part in 240bpm
    Compared to a guitar part 120bpm ( doubletime)

    My answer, there are no differences between those .

    Halftime means cut the tempo in half .
    Double time means double the tempo .

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-time_(music)

    https://www.dummies.com/art-center/...Double time is just the,of beats two and four.
     
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2021
  10. Stevie Dude

    Stevie Dude Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2020
    Messages:
    2,445
    Likes Received:
    2,193
    Location:
    Near Nyquist
    that's the beauty of guitar my friend, it is the easiest instrument to learn, anyone can play guitar, but the hardest shit ever to be good at.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • List
  11. samsome

    samsome Guest

    dude if u can carry out a tune u're fine!! unless you want to be the best soloist or something...also playing live ok is another story...
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 9, 2021
  12. Stevie Dude

    Stevie Dude Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2020
    Messages:
    2,445
    Likes Received:
    2,193
    Location:
    Near Nyquist
    lol, solo is the simplest thing about guitar man, putting a rhythm section that is so infectious that made the guitar solo can be played beyond the limitation of music theory is what I'm talking about. As an example Depeche Mode a band that everyone knows, the rhythm section is godllike because they can play their own Mode, such as playing all the chords in Minor even it suppose to be Major according to the theory thus enabling the vocal (considered as solo as well, if you know what i mean) to go crazy and sing his heart out ignoring all the rules.

    https://reverbmachine.com/blog/depeche-mode-chord-theory/

    there are more advanced stuff, this is just one of the simplest explanation on the net. The thing about the advanced stuff, it will never make sense to beginner but believe me it's there.
     
    Last edited: Nov 9, 2021
Loading...
Similar Threads - Half Drums instruments Forum Date
Half of 2024 lets share our latest secrets or tricks in musicmaking Mixing and Mastering Jul 3, 2024
Ticketmaster Data breach - half a billion at risk Industry News May 30, 2024
finally free from abilify after a year and a half : ) Lounge Nov 20, 2023
Big UAD Half-Yearly Sale 2023 with Lowest ever Prices Software News May 26, 2023
SNPID Lister opens for half a sec and dissapear Kontakt Apr 20, 2023
Loading...