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  1. elie khoury

    elie khoury Newbie

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    Hello We Suggest to Make a Internal Community With Membership for Example Each Month 50$ and we can then buy Whatever Library or Vst we Need and we Share it in that Community
    for The Person who is interested Pm Me

    Unreleased Stuff:
    Native Instruments
    8Dio
    Emberton
    OrchestraTools
    Cinesample
    and many new library that are Not Released
    Thank You
     
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  3. Andrew

    Andrew AudioSEX Maestro Staff Member

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    Noble idea, but similar one brought weeks of turmoil on AudioZ & AudioSex and led to:
    1. Demotion of admin and two moderators
    2. Lengthy discussions about equality
    3. DDOS attack on AudioZ
    4. AudioSex spam flood
    Just by making a call in public, you're in risky position. :sad:
    Group buys are risky business, but the outcome can be truly rewarding, but only as long as all members are trustworthy.
     
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  4. DanteUruzu

    DanteUruzu Kapellmeister

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    Fixed that up a bit for ya ;)

    Now, I'm not so sure this is a good idea or even one that will work. It reminds me, somewhat, of what someone else was trying to do except on a lighter level (only sample libraries instead of the whole site/everything).

    Edit: Andrew beat me to it. Nicely put!
     
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  5. phenomboy

    phenomboy Ultrasonic

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    I don't think group buying was the issue and have ever been a problem. It was the fact that some members made a private group just to share between them releases that were destined to AudioZ.

    Group buys are pretty cool actually
     
  6. mrpsanter

    mrpsanter Rock Star

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    A group buy might be a good idea for some expensive libraries but how do you guys plan to do it for releases with a limited amount of licenses such as UVI Falcon for example: In this specific example, it would mean that only three people would be able to benefit from this VSTi and it will not be possible to share it with the Audioz community...

    Unless I missed something?
     
  7. elie khoury

    elie khoury Newbie

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    we buy Kontakt Library Loops Samples Vst with Serial Number like that Stuff
     
  8. Diabulus in Musica

    Diabulus in Musica Platinum Record

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    I have another idea, why don't we do some sort of "Public Money Box"? It should work this way: someone (SAiNT, a Staff member or a member of AS) choose a library, plug-in or whatever it is and then says: the goal of this month is to reach X to buy Y and members can then donate whatever amount of money they can to reach the goal.
     
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  9. elie khoury

    elie khoury Newbie

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    Another Good Idea but there is library that not all people are interested in it
     
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    Diabulus in Musica Platinum Record

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    In that case who is not interested can skip the donation...
     
  11. Knucklehead

    Knucklehead Ultrasonic

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    Like Andrew already said...Post such a call in public is more than risky...Look for people via PM...Look at comments and u will find people ;)
    Also u need trustworthy people...Donation only works if everyone pays the same amount...Otherwise some would be angry cuz they spend lets say 50$ and others just 10$...
     
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    Andrew AudioSEX Maestro Staff Member

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    Hmm, not sure how to implement it..
    SInce regular payments are easily trackable, it'd have to be through bitcoin wallet.
    Then, in order to pay for the stuff, the money had to be on PayPal, so at least one person would be exposed (the one getting the watermarks on). Also getting bitcoins on PayPal is hard as it is.
    All in all, it's indeed possible. I'll try to further discuss it with other staff members to hear their opinions.

    Edit: I can't add poll to this thread, so those that'd like to see 'donation' option get into practice, please add "Agree" to this comment, to get the idea how many people are interested.
     
  13. TinTin

    TinTin Producer

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    what ? "you all get it and certain people dont get it" so you are Elitists :guru:
     
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    Andrew AudioSEX Maestro Staff Member

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    No, it's everyone who contributed/donated gets it, others do not. Just as group buys in physical world (Massdrop).
    This has nothing to do with elitism - just delivering product people paid for. :no:
     
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    TinTin Producer

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    just try to read behind the lines why i said Elitists , its exactly the same on certain topics in the past , you know which ones , there are serveral .
     
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    Andrew AudioSEX Maestro Staff Member

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    It's something we'd have to call a vote on before or after the content is purchased.
     
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    Diabulus in Musica Platinum Record

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    Agree, I think it's the right thing to do.
     
  18. Kwissbeats

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    I applaud they idea, and don't want to be a party pooper,
    but this is on a whole different legal level then audioz.

    group buys might facilitating organized crime, instead of just hyper linking
    (which is essentially the same but not legally)

    First.
    I would def. think about hiding some info behind P.m. especially payments and stuff,
    and use the topic merely to report your interest.

    Second.
    I really really really admire Andrew our beloved moderator.
    But I think a staff members involvement could also mean things on a legal basis for audiosex ,
    I'm not really sure about this, but I think It would be appropriate for you (and this is just a suggestion) to contact saint about that to be sure.

    Done right this all could turn into blessing
     
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    Andrew AudioSEX Maestro Staff Member

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    I did just that, in fact, not only SAiNT, but all staff. Yes, unfortunately I agree with you. As said in my first comment, it's risky as hell and AudioZ might be endangered by law enforcement even more. Also it might be targetted by more DDOS, something not really fun to happen.
    Although I don't agree with OP's proposal (sorry about first reply), Diabulus made an interesting point, which is however still too fragile. There are many many roadblocks for that idea to see its flowering, however who am I to stand it it's way? Even though I'd actually prefer "relatively safe" harbour idea, e.g. the current state. I did comment on it, so that while I don't quite agree to it, it wouldn't be fair if I shut it down.
    At this point, it's only on theoretical level, and honestly I wouldn't hold one's hopes too high.
     
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  20. Diabulus in Musica

    Diabulus in Musica Platinum Record

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    Mine was just a hint, to succeed it has to be arranged in the right way...
     
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    the only way for it to work is
    a) not in public
    b) have a trustworthy group of peeps with funds willing to share costs
    c) being able to trust each other and hope no one does the dirty and shares purchases to others not in the loop who then release it publically, and then all hell breaks out when they do.

    As Andrew has already stated, mods here are not really interested (especially Saint) and you will need to do all the work and planning privately.

    Good luck.
     
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