I was wondering what software right now are there for making samplepacks out of a vst?. I trying to port most of my vsts and kontakt stuff to a mpc and the mpc has its own sampler but its a tiny bit rudimentary sometimes.
Maybe there are other alternatives that can create so called instrument programs for the mpc that are "better"? I saw on the sister site some requests for something called Preset maker" and "kit maker" but they seem pretty dead. Alternatives?

 

SAMPLEROBOT
https://samplerobot.com/pages/samplerobot

 

Or AutoSampler in Logic. Samplerobot is awesome on PC, but they charge like $300 or something for it. You can find it on Sister Site. Whatever they charge now is nuts, it should be like 50$ max. It is more expensive than Logic. I think they charge these kinds of prices because they do have the market cornered; there are very few options even close to as good.

 

E-MU Emulator X3 ... it have a autosampler

 

Extreme Sample Converter (not been updated for a while so 32-bit plugins only)
https://www.extranslator.com/index.php?page=exsc
It's available on sister site named Wlodzimierz Grabowski Extreme Sample Converter v3.6.0 and does have some uses. I sampled a couple of synths with it and some sounds I love from some VSTi and it did a great job but SampleRobot looks even better mentioned above so will look into that also. Thanks

 

Anyone knows if Samplerobot offer anything else over what the MPC autosampler already can?

Also, what is your experience sampling libraries of not “simple” synth sounds, but vsts of keyboards, libraries of guitars, brass instruments and similar. That is the real challenge

 

I've never used the MPC one. But the best purposes of Samplerobot for me was sampling from Hardware synths. That's all I ever used it for. You can setup multiple velocity layers, round robin, and many of the more advanced detail options. Like awaiting sound to hit your soundcard to begin recording. It triggers each key via Midi to the external synth and then captures the sample of that key. You end up with results similar to the sample content of a Kontakt instrument.

The main purpose is so that you have a sample for every root key, rather than pitching and stretching them across the keyboard map.
If you mean using musical Midi loops/sequences to trigger the plugin, I wouldn't use an Auto-sampler. I would setup a midi track and an audio track in my daw armed, set the region locators, and then bounce the loop in place in the DAW.

I'm not sure of your end goal, but this is all very tedious stuff; and it can become very time consuming to sample all this material you may or may not even end up using. It just doesn't sound like a very efficient workflow to me. SampleRobot is best used to create the content for Sampler Instruments.

 

Goal is having a sampled/resampled selection of core quality instruments/sounds that I always go to, but not bound to kontakt or computer. On my mpc in standalone (or for use in the mpc software), to minimize the dependency on multiple vsts, all my bread n butter in my own sample packs

 

SampleRobot has really good autolooping, but it only loadsVST2 and is unable to load presets. For the actual sampling of plugins, I use Renoise Plugin Grabber, I think it's the keyzones tab will let you output the instrument as SFZ, it's like Export Multisample in the optitons drop down, but in Flac format.

I just convert the Flac to Wav, then start a new project in SampleRobot to have it perform the bulk autolooping.

 

It doesn't say this on their website, and the first mention of it is on page 61 in the manual. Someone could easily buy it and have to try getting their money back. Did you ever try loading Bluecat's Patchwork as a VST2 and then the plugin you want to sample in Patchwork?

 

When I sampled my Yamaha CS6x and SW1000XG I sampled every few keys in the range normally used and used those samples across the full keyboard. Drums every Key and Strings I liked just longer Samples so it didn't have to loop

 

Yeah, you can do that, it works sometimes, other times it crashes. I like to layer stuff in Bidule, then sample it, so Renoise is the better option because I can just load the VST3 and let it do it's thing. The problem with Renoise is the auto looping is subpar. You'd think they would have just been right on top of VST3 with SampleRobot given how fast stuff is going all VST3.

 

That too, making a bit lighter/portable drum programs from the bigger drum libraries/vsts would be neat. Havnt seen anything that can do that, the MPCs autosampler does only so called instrument programs over the keyboard not drum programs. i would rather not do it manually if i can skip it, thats why im researching and looking around

 

Last edited: Oct 6, 2023