Gary Moore - The Prophet. Attempt using only VST

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  1. WillyA

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    I used the Blacktop, into AXP Softdrive GV (a free Gov'nor Emulator. Next to the TH-U. I tried a lot of Amps, the nearest that I could get was the Marshal 1959. I added the Shimmer Reverb and the CHR2 Delay.

    I don't think that I'll get much close. Needs a bit of EQ I don't own a video camera (or want on - I like my privacy)

    Here is the result. Need to work on the rest of the song.
     

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  3. Smoove Grooves

    Smoove Grooves Audiosexual

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    I can't think what guitar inst you are using?
    Can't be AS, OTS, or Prominy, because they all have the required artics that are missing from this.
    Either way, that is something you very much need to work on, imo.
     
  4. WillyA

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    I agree. I'm almost 80, I can't afford fancy new gear. I have to make do with the stuff I had. My aim is to get close, using VST's. I used a Fender Blacktop Strat and before you start ranting on about Humbuckers, the Blacktop HAS Humbuckers.

    At my age Im not a perfectionist. For my first attempt, I don't consider it too bad, there is a lot of room for improvement, but as I said, It's my first attempt. I can't magically turn my Blacktop into a Les Paul, but if you would like to buy me one as a present, I would be more than happy!
     
  5. Strat4ever

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    Have you tried Positive Grid Bias FX2 it has Guitar & pickup modeling plus all the FX and amps and speakers you could want, this is my personal fave and gives me the same sound, quality and response as my old 70's Hiwatt Buldog 50 & 60's Fender Super Reverb. I know there are somewho don't like Positive grid but let your own ears be the judge. You could also try try Line 6 Helix Native another good Sim, I have a friend who really loves it, but to each their own opinions and choices. I Hope this is helpful. BTW your sample sounds like you're using Strat type guitar with single coil pickups so the sound seems to be missing some of fullness of a humbucker.
    I have an 80's fender Strat which came from Fender with Schaller humbuckers pickups I just added 3 position coil taps for neck or bridge coil of eack pickup for single coil sound. BTW these pichups are way more poweful and richer than normal humbuckers, they beat the sound of my 60's Les Paul by a long shot.
    I'm a dinosaur in my 70's and still playing.
     
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  6. WillyA

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    No, I haven't tried Positive Grid Bias FX2. I tried Amplitube - not impressed - difficult to find one's way around. TH-U seems OK, but I'll have a look at your suggestion, after all, at our age, we dinosaurs will try anythin. othing to lose these days. The last time I played live was in 2004, so I might as well experiment. I'm trying to compose, but my keyboard skills are not goo. I can play just about anything either from Notation or ear with my Right hand, but when it comes to making the both do different things, it all starts to turn to brown stuff!

    Thand for the tip. Stay well, Don't have the vaccine and don't believe in the scamdemic. We're too young to let Bill Gates kill us!
     
  7. Smoove Grooves

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    It's definitely alright for a first attempt!
    Which guitar vst did you use was my question, please?
    I'm a session keys player in my late 40s having been doing it as a profession since 18 and I compose with a daw, so I know the potential of sample based instruments and all the companies that make guitar instruments. I am trying to help where I see it's needed. That's what AS is about, and everything we talk about becomes a mine of info for others, forever. It's great.
    I don't know about pickups so much, (I'm a musician not a scientist, Jim!) so no need for defensiveness (or pre-emptive offensive strike? :)) when I have not "ranted" about pickup selection!
    And I won't. I can't!
     
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    Gary's sound on The Loner was definitely more distorted and probably less on The Prophet but more compressed.
     
  9. Strat4ever

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    If you want to play keyboards and Guitar even simultaneously go to https://www.jamorigin.com MIDI guitar 2
    they have a demo, the full version is only $100. then go to https://www.fullbucket.de/music/vst.html download Tricent MK II & The Deputy MK II they are free VST instruments , if you have Positive Grid Bias FX2 load that on the guitar channel blend in the VST instruments or use them alone, they sound great I went to a jam session last year with this stuff and a few extra VST Instruments & plugins started off playing a rapid indian sitar style solo for about 30 seconds then went right into Zep's Kashmir playing both the Guitar and keyboard parts although slightly modified the kids were surprised by the multiple sounds from my guitar and came up to look at my laptop to see what the heck I was using, since there was only a bass player and drummer who had joined in to help me out, it was great fun.
     
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  10. Strat4ever

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    Is this the guitar sound you are after, It is my 80's Platinum Strat with it's stock Schaller Pickups with TBX tone control.
     
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  11. WillyA

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    Nice, thanks for sharing
     
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